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  • jwai
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • May 2018
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    SSD storage board

    Hi everybody,

    There have expert replace third party M2 size SSD module on i series instead of original Storage Board?
  • Synthohol
    Certified Konica Expert

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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    Re: SSD storage board

    Sure
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • jwai
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • May 2018
      • 497

      #3
      Re: SSD storage board

      Oh, the specific brands of SSD storage the copier is supported?

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      • Synthohol
        Certified Konica Expert

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        • Mar 2016
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        #4
        Re: SSD storage board

        to be honest with you, your post was a poor translation to english and my response was apathetic indifference.
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • tsbservice
          Field tech

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          5,000+ Posts
          • May 2007
          • 7635

          #5
          Re: SSD storage board

          It's like that with all his posts, maybe language barrier is too big. I think he asked if new i-series bizhubs storage board(SSD) may be replaced with aftermarket SSD(cheap) than original KM.
          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
          Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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          • jotunn
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 530

            #6
            Re: SSD storage board

            As far as I know, they can't be replaced by any other consumer NVMe disk. There are two kind of NVMe disks mounted in i-Series - PHISON (the bigger) and Toshiba (the smaller one).
            I've tested Toshiba KBG30ZMS256G as the closest to the original (KBG30AMS256G), unfortunately even this was not enough.

            Long story short...
            Disks distributed by KM are most probably whitelisted (by firmware revision number) in the copier firmware - both kind of disks have the same firmware rev. and that's pretty impossible in real world in case of different manufacturers.
            You can't edit firmware revision number, you can't extract firmware from OEM disk controller to upload to another disk, you could probably manually edit revision in firmware controller update image... but it's encrypted.

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            • gere1
              Technician
              • Oct 2018
              • 20

              #7
              Re: SSD storage board

              the question is
              Why do you want a ssd from the i series?
              Are they giving problems?
              has to connect another ssd m2 but I have not seen anything in the manual
              and the microsd thing drives me crazy

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              • and
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Oct 2011
                • 88

                #8
                Re: SSD storage board

                Originally posted by jotunn
                As far as I know, they can't be replaced by any other consumer NVMe disk. There are two kind of NVMe disks mounted in i-Series - PHISON (the bigger) and Toshiba (the smaller one).
                I've tested Toshiba KBG30ZMS256G as the closest to the original (KBG30AMS256G), unfortunately even this was not enough.

                Long story short...
                Disks distributed by KM are most probably whitelisted (by firmware revision number) in the copier firmware - both kind of disks have the same firmware rev. and that's pretty impossible in real world in case of different manufacturers.
                You can't edit firmware revision number, you can't extract firmware from OEM disk controller to upload to another disk, you could probably manually edit revision in firmware controller update image... but it's encrypted.
                I found this ssd Apacer AS2280P2 M.2 240GB PCIe Gen3 x2 SSD [AP240GAS2280P2-1] - Uno sguardo da vicino - HW Legend have the same controller PS5008-E8 the same ram Nanya NT5CC128M16JR and the same Nand Flash TA59G55AIV of PHISON (the bigger) If anyone wants to try.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7931

                  #9
                  Re: SSD storage board

                  Originally posted by jwai
                  Hi everybody,

                  There have expert replace third party M2 size SSD module on i series instead of original Storage Board?
                  On the training course they told us you can remove & format these M2 SSD in using a laptop/caddy.

                  Apparently it is a standard board not unique to KM.
                  Last edited by copier tech; 12-24-2020, 09:04 PM.
                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • tsbservice
                    Field tech

                    Site Contributor
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                    • May 2007
                    • 7635

                    #10
                    Re: SSD storage board

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    On the training course they told us you can remove & format these M2 SSD in using a laptop/caddy.

                    Or purchase it from KM if you can. It's not expensive.
                    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                    Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                    • jotunn
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 530

                      #11
                      Re: SSD storage board

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      On the training course they told us you can remove & format these M2 SSD in using a laptop/caddy.

                      Apparently it is a standard board not unique to KM.
                      First thing - this is not M.2 SSD, it's M.2 NVMe much faster and not compatible with M.2 SSD
                      Second thing - yes, those disks could be read and written with a computer with proper interface, but only from copiers with early versions of firmware, KM in newer firmware has turned on disk locking, so you can't read and write partitions, but you can format whole disk
                      Third thing - you couldn't swap OEM disk with ordinary consumer disks, because they were not recognized as a boot device in a copier

                      Why to swap OEM disk with consumer one? Because earlier disks (Toshiba) were prone to damage, and OEM cost was $300 vs. $25 for consumer one.

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                      • EarthKmTech
                        Step aside, noob

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • May 2009
                        • 2142

                        #12
                        Re: SSD storage board

                        Originally posted by Synthohol
                        to be honest with you, your post was a poor translation to english and my response was apathetic indifference.
                        How rude, lol

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                        • Synthohol
                          Certified Konica Expert

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                          • Mar 2016
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                          #13
                          Re: SSD storage board

                          at least i was honest

                          "There have expert replace third party M2 size SSD module on i series instead of original Storage Board?"

                          it seemed like a statement and a question all at once. i was lost like a deadhead at a K-pop concert.
                          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                          The medication helps though...

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