C224e duplex jams

[copyman]

Re: C224e duplex jams

IMHO i think the solenoid loses some electromagnetism and fails to suck the pintle in or the axles of the duplex gate become worn and the resting position of the gate is too high so when a duplex is started the gate does not pull down fast enough to allow the page to be sent for turnover and either comes out the bottom instead or the paper get caught on the comb.

Someone mentioned cutting the spring but wouldn't this make it harder for the sol plunger to energize and be pulled in?

The solenoid has a slot where the screw is and looks like it would be adjustable but can't because it sits on a location pin.

I took the whole exit unit from a machine in shop with 17k. Going to swap out whole unit. Also put "2" control panel labels on the metal frame as indicated (thanks syn). Should I add another label so I don't have to take back out or is 2 label thickness enough since low meter unit?

Thanks again

[tsbservice]

Re: C224e duplex jams

You can swap solenoid with modified one, just to make sure you don't have to do it again.
Part number A161R72644 Solenoid Assy.

[Synthohol]

Re: C224e duplex jams

Should I add another label so I don't have to take back out or is 2 label thickness enough since low meter unit?

Thanks again

low meter 2 labels, over 750k 3 labels is my gauge.
too many labels the angle of the comb gate is too low and can overcompensate and jam.
thats why i like the spring hook forceps way, i add 3 and if it still jams i can peel one off easily.

[hobbele]

Re: C224e duplex jams

Hello everyone, is this modification still relevant with the new Exit Assy?

Part Number of Paper Exit Assy Change (Related to PMN No.KOM171586)

We have a machine with the same problem and have already swapped the Exit Assy (A5C0F8950F).
The paper is sporadically ejected in the lower area and does not run up into the duplex.

So should I also test a 2mm thick Mylar here?

TIA

[copyman]

Re: C224e duplex jams

Hello everyone, is this modification still relevant with the new Exit Assy?
Part Number of Paper Exit Assy Change (Related to PMN No.KOM171586)


We have a machine with the same problem and have already swapped the Exit Assy (A5C0F8950F).
The paper is sporadically ejected in the lower area and does not run up into the duplex.

So should I also test a 2mm thick Mylar here?

TIA


The labels worked for me!

[ferro10]

Re: C224e duplex jams

I don't have the front panel labels available. What can I use alternatively?

[hobbele]

Re: C224e duplex jams

I don't have the front panel labels available. What can I use alternatively?

everything that is 2mm thick and sticks! it's just a matter of shortening the gap. I did it today and the machine runs! Thanks to all

[REGSIS]

Re: C224e duplex jams

Those 32-05 & 32-01 jams were annoying me for a while, particularly with a 0.5 mil C308.
I used to replace a modified solenoid and 2 sponges at the exit unit as a solution on all troubled machines. Usually worked, but... it came back on some.
Synthohol solution with 2mm stickers were a step forward but what really solved the problem were the pads at the side door (reverse unit).

Explanation: Gate switch is moving forward and backward to guide the paper on lower or upper exit. Those sponges/pads are actually just dampers to prevent noise which the gate switch will make if they are absent.
When a duplex print is executed gate switch leans on pads in reverse unit. At exact moment solenoid is energized and should retract its arm which move the gate switch. When pads at the reverse unit are old gate switch stick to them making the movement late which results that only one side is printed and paper exit at lower gate producing J32-01.
If the first side is printed and the same fault occurred at the second side J32-05 is shown with jammed paper inside fuser but the cause is the same - gate switch stick to pads/sponges and is not moved on time.

Gate switch should not stick at each side because its movement should be executed on time.

A161893601 Cushion x2 on paper exit unit
A161825301 Cushion /A x2 on reversal unit

[Oystercopy]

Re: C224e duplex jams

I've glued the corner piece of a credit/debit card on that frame opposite that plunger, and that has worked for me several times. Of course, an old, out of date card!
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