KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

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  • Mister C
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2020
    • 6

    [Misc] KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

    Hi there!
    End user is struggling with a KM C227 from some time now. The machine was constantly printing with a magenta hue on all colour pages and the calibration procedures helped a bit whenever the issue was present.
    All drums and developing units were changed in the past as they were approaching end of life, but the magenta issue came back after a while and it consumed extra toner. There was also a lot of ejected toner inside the machine.

    Now, the machine prints thick vertical lines which seem to be composed of Y, C BK and some M. I've attached a sample print.

    Any idea what could be causing the issue? Drums and belt look ok. Possibly the laser unit is dirty?

    Moreover, the machine also shows and error C-0202 for Tray 1 . I found some jammed paper in the lift mechanism for Tray 1, but it seems that the motor or sensor is damaged.

    Troublesome machine, this one
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  • Synthohol
    Certified Konica Expert

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2016
    • 5463

    #2
    Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

    if i was to take an educated guess, id focus on the transfer belt and its gears.
    to me without hearing it operate, it looks like the cleaning assy gear on the belt is skipping and causing a bounce to the cleaning blade.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22699

      #3
      Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

      The C0202 is most often caused by paper being overloaded. Once you get the paper from behind the tray perform a System Error Clear to reset the error. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

        Site Contributor
        5,000+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 7635

        #4
        Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

        Check erase LEDs.
        A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
        Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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        • Genotrom
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Feb 2020
          • 77

          #5
          Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

          Originally posted by tsbservice
          Check erase LEDs.
          what's this called in the manual? I am curious to see how to disassemble

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          • tsbservice
            Field tech

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 7635

            #6
            Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

            Originally posted by Genotrom
            what's this called in the manual? I am curious to see how to disassemble
            Here's the video from one of the greatest KM techs around:
            Bizhub C227 kept destroying yellow IU's - Here's why (Technicians ONLY) - YouTube

            Btw, this is from basic copy process 101.
            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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            • edwards63

              #7
              Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

              In my opinion, there is a defective primary charge roller PCR of the black drum unit. look at the top of the printed sheet at the first two strips and you will see white dots that are repeated plus oblique lines similar to the structure of the cleaning roller of the PCR. Try to replace PCR to another from any used drum or image units or replace black drum unit assembly.
              Last edited by Guest; 11-19-2020, 05:49 PM.

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              • byronf
                Senior Member

                100+ Posts
                • Sep 2017
                • 109

                #8
                Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

                I would suggest you upload the half tones (KYMC) at 255 and 120 to begin the trouble shooting.

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                • Mister C
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2020
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  The C0202 is most often caused by paper being overloaded. Once you get the paper from behind the tray perform a System Error Clear to reset the error. =^..^=
                  Thank you for this. It solved the issue with C0202.

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                  • Mister C
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2020
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

                    Originally posted by tsbservice
                    Check erase LEDs.
                    Good tip, this one. I will remember to check in future devices, but in this case all 4 LED's are functional.

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                    • Mister C
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2020
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: KM C227 Vertical Lines when the print has coloured elements on the page

                      Originally posted by Synthohol
                      if i was to take an educated guess, id focus on the transfer belt and its gears.
                      to me without hearing it operate, it looks like the cleaning assy gear on the belt is skipping and causing a bounce to the cleaning blade.
                      You might be right. After a second checkup, I've noticed that lines of toner are somewhat hardened on the transfer belt. As if it wasn't cleaned properly.
                      Anyhow, I also observed that the belt was punctured in 2 places so I recommended the end user a new one.

                      I'll reply with how the device operates after I change it.

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