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  • Brett GS
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2013
    • 154

    C554e j12-01

    Hi all

    I have a c554e driving me crazy.
    I am getting intermittent j12-01 (from tray 2) and the odd j99-01.
    Lone behold after leaving the customer it happends again even after testing long runs.
    So far all rollers, oneway clutches and tray 1 and 2 clutched have been replaced.
    Customer sent a photo of the page just getting out of tray 2 and stops.
    Shafts have been cleaned and slightly sanded fir grip.
    Im going back in the morning to check again.
    Found in the service manual that this could be caused by the expansion board due too temp.

    Any other advice would be appreciated.

    To add firmware is up to date aswell.
    SW have also been changed for the j99-01 code.
  • tsbservice
    Field tech

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • May 2007
    • 7635

    #2
    Re: C554e j12-01

    Disassemble and clean thoroughly registration rollers and bushings. Good luck.
    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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    • blinxwap
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Jun 2020
      • 80

      #3
      Re: C554e j12-01

      Take the feed clutch from tray 1 on the paper feed section, tray 1 and tray 2 have the same clutches swap them and test, 99-01 if paper is in portrait turn it landscape in tray works everytime

      Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk

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      • copier tech
        Field Supervisor

        5,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2014
        • 7931

        #4
        Re: C554e j12-01

        Originally posted by Brett GS
        Hi all

        I have a c554e driving me crazy.
        I am getting intermittent j12-01 (from tray 2) and the odd j99-01.
        Lone behold after leaving the customer it happends again even after testing long runs.
        So far all rollers, oneway clutches and tray 1 and 2 clutched have been replaced.
        Customer sent a photo of the page just getting out of tray 2 and stops.
        Shafts have been cleaned and slightly sanded fir grip.
        Im going back in the morning to check again.
        Found in the service manual that this could be caused by the expansion board due too temp.

        Any other advice would be appreciated.

        To add firmware is up to date aswell.
        SW have also been changed for the j99-01 code.
        Sounds like you have replaced everything you can in the feed unit, however you don't mention the torque limiter?

        If it's jamming just out of tray 2 & tray 1 is feeding OK I would simply replace the complete feed unit, they are not to expensive.
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        • allan
          RTFM!!

          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5445

          #5
          Re: C554e j12-01

          Does the paper make it to the first relay rollers?
          Whatever

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          • Brett GS
            Trusted Tech

            100+ Posts
            • Jun 2013
            • 154

            #6
            Re: C554e j12-01

            Originally posted by allan
            Does the paper make it to the first relay rollers?
            Hi Allan
            Yes it gets out the tray and stops at the conveyance roller.

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            • Brett GS
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Jun 2013
              • 154

              #7
              Re: C554e j12-01

              Originally posted by copier tech
              Sounds like you have replaced everything you can in the feed unit, however you don't mention the torque limiter?

              If it's jamming just out of tray 2 & tray 1 is feeding OK I would simply replace the complete feed unit, they are not to expensive.
              Sorry forgot to mention the torque limiters,replaced both tray 1 and 2.

              With try another feed unit and update on the progress.

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

                5,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 5445

                #8
                Re: C554e j12-01

                Add pressure to the lower part of the door to see if that helps. I have had it where there was not enough pressure on the driven rollers and the paper does not get pulled from the feed unit.

                Sure you don't get J-2002 in the mix? There is a way to shim the door for that issue.

                For J1201 in could be a sensor.
                Whatever

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                • Toxic
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 690

                  #9
                  Re: C554e j12-01

                  Check this,could help

                  Modification to right side door of C224e and 224e series up to and including C554e and 554e.pdf

                  j2002,2001,9901.pdf

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22698

                    #10
                    Re: C554e j12-01

                    I had a bizhub 454e that was wearing the separation roller for tray #1 tapered in 15K pages or less. Upon examining the feed assembly you could see that the feed and separation rollers did not make even contact. The plastic frame was soft enough that flexing of the frame changed the alignment of the feed and separation. The jam code was J11-01.

                    My solution was to remove the reinforcing metal brace, and warp in down 8mm parabolic at the center to re-align the rollers to meet flat (if that makes sense), then re-install it. Then the rollers did meet flat and I did not have the issue again.

                    I went through (3) sets of rollers before coming up with the modification. As you know, it's not so easy to remove the feed unit assembly, so I wanted to get it right the first time.

                    You might look for that. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Gift
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2413

                      #11
                      Re: C554e j12-01

                      Any pre-printed paper involved here?

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                      • Brett GS
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 154

                        #12
                        Re: C554e j12-01

                        Hi all
                        Update
                        Thanks for all the input.
                        Tried all except feed unit (didn't have one on hand).
                        Turned out being faulty size detection sensors believe it or not.
                        After 2 and a half hours and pulling my hair out i noticed after it jammed it showed a message to pull out tray and load correct size paper thats when the penny dropped andmade me think to check size detection sensors.

                        After alot of testing machine was jam free.

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