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  • poneyboy
    Technician

    Site Contributor
    • Sep 2015
    • 25

    #1

    Lost in the Power Settings hell

    Hello guys !

    As told in other topics, I have two secondhand C258 of which i am very proud, and I am looking a bit at all the parameters, and some of them are not clear at all.

    I have been trying to find informations in lots of places, and also with help of pagescope.com, but what i find very unclear is the Power setting.

    Here is a screenshot of the config page:
    2021-11-16 23_43_25-Power Settings - PageScope Web Connection.jpg

    Is someone here capable of explaining clearly what each option is doing? The Konica documentation seems to be lacking of accuracy.

    What is Low Power Mode? What is Sleep? What is the difference between them?

    Also what is Power Consumption exactly? And what is the difference between High, Enabled and Disabled?

    The Power Save Setting allows us to choose between Low Power and Sleep, but i don't understand what it really does.
  • femaster
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • May 2011
    • 1469

    #2
    Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

    Not sure if you have a copy of the Users Guide or not. It helps to explain things pretty good. Here is an official online version of the manual you can use for reference...

    Whole manual: User's Guide
    Power Settings section: Descriptions of Functions / Utility Keys
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    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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    • poneyboy
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      • Sep 2015
      • 25

      #3
      Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

      From what i understand, correct me if i'm wrong, we have to choose between Low Power and Sleep.

      It is not cumulating like "go into Low Power mode after X minutes, and then go from Low power mode to Sleep mode after Y minutes".

      -----------------------------------------------------

      I just tested this:
      Low Power: 60 minutes
      Sleep: 5 minutes
      Power Consumption in Sleep mode: High
      Power Save setting: Low Power checked (Sleep unchecked)

      But after 5 minutes, the machine display turned off, heard relays, and power button is pulsing blue. Sleep delay parameter must be ignored in this case, no?

      So apprently Sleep and Low Power are working together and the manual is not that clear about this.

      -----------------------------------------------------

      Second test:
      Identical, except Power Save setting: Sleep checked (Low power unchecked)
      Result: Identical behaviour...

      -----------------------------------------------------

      In both case, the machine won't wake up when inserting an original in the ADF or opening the front door, which indicates the setting Power Consumption in Sleep mode: high is taken in account, and since it is for sleep mode, we can conclude the machine is actually in sleep mode.

      Do you find this conclusion correct? Can this be a bug?
      Last edited by poneyboy; 11-17-2021, 11:09 AM.

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      • Synthohol
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        • Mar 2016
        • 5745

        #4
        Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

        low power never kicks in because you have them reversed.
        i would disable sleep, they have a hard time waking up from sleep.
        low power 5min
        sleep 60 min or OFF!
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • Copier Addict
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          • Jul 2013
          • 14423

          #5
          Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

          Originally posted by poneyboy
          From what i understand, correct me if i'm wrong, we have to choose between Low Power and Sleep.

          It is not cumulating like "go into Low Power mode after X minutes, and then go from Low power mode to Sleep mode after Y minutes".

          -----------------------------------------------------

          I just tested this:
          Low Power: 60 minutes
          Sleep: 5 minutes
          Power Consumption in Sleep mode: High
          Power Save setting: Low Power checked (Sleep unchecked)

          But after 5 minutes, the machine display turned off, heard relays, and power button is pulsing blue. Sleep delay parameter must be ignored in this case, no?

          So apprently Sleep and Low Power are working together and the manual is not that clear about this.

          -----------------------------------------------------

          Second test:
          Identical, except Power Save setting: Sleep checked (Low power unchecked)
          Result: Identical behaviour...

          -----------------------------------------------------

          In both case, the machine won't wake up when inserting an original in the ADF or opening the front door, which indicates the setting Power Consumption in Sleep mode: high is taken in account, and since it is for sleep mode, we can conclude the machine is actually in sleep mode.

          Do you find this conclusion correct? Can this be a bug?

          Low Power shuts off the display and reduces the power usage a little, but the machine is still alert
          Sleep Mode basically turns everything off but keeps the fuser a little warm, but for the most part the machine is off.

          As Synthahol stated these machines have difficulty wake from Sleep mode occasionally so best to turn it off.

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          • poneyboy
            Technician

            Site Contributor
            • Sep 2015
            • 25

            #6
            Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

            Ok, that's true my settings are reversed, but since in Power Save setting i have set Low Power, the sleep setting shouldn't be ignored?

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            • Synthohol
              Certified Konica Expert

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              • Mar 2016
              • 5745

              #7
              Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

              sleep should be disabled.
              that series has notorious issues waking after sleep.
              service mode, system 2, sleep setting, "permit" end.
              admin mode, power save, sleep turn to OFF.
              you will thank me later.
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • poneyboy
                Technician

                Site Contributor
                • Sep 2015
                • 25

                #8
                Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

                Ok, you seem to know these machines well. Thanks a lot for the advice! And thank you all for your replies

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                • Hansoon
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3355

                  #9
                  Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

                  that series has notorious issues waking after sleep.
                  That applies for the previous series C-XX4e too?

                  Hans
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                  • Synthohol
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                    • Mar 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

                    both 8 and 4 series
                    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                    The medication helps though...

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                    • kingarthur
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1305

                      #11
                      Re: Lost in the Power Settings hell

                      There was a bulletin, many moons ago,

                      Adjust the following settings:

                      [Admin Mode] > [System Setting] > "Power Supply / Power Save Settings" :

                      1) On page 1 - Touch "Enter Power Save Mode" - and select "Normal"
                      2) On page 2 - Touch "Power Consumption in Sleep Mode" - and select "Disabled"

                      I have always set up every machine with these settings. This was because machines weren't "waking up"
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