Installing a C3070

[orestesp]

Finally(!) retiring the C6500 for a lightly used C3070 equipped with the following options:

PF-707m with the optional HT-506
DF-706
RU-518
FD-503
SD-506
FS-532

Now comes the tricky part; putting everything together! After looking through the service manual and looking around on Google, I couldn't find any documentation getting into the nitty gritty details of where to plug what, etc.

Is it possible to screw this up? In my experience, there hasn't been a way to plug something in the wrong socket, as the molex or the other JST or custom connectors that they use can only be plugged in a certain way. Is there any documentation that I am unaware of?

Also, to power everything up, almost all the options beside the DF and the FS-532 require an external schuko power plug besides the power they may be getting from the engine, correct? I never had to deal with this before on the older hardware, if they are all plugged in a separate 16A socket via a good, name brand power strip, I assume they'd be good to go.

According to the service manual, the engine itself also uses a industrial type single phase socket instead of a schuko plug, do they really draw that much more power compared to the previous generations or is it to cover higher power configurations that a schuko plug couldn't handle?

Finally, does the integrated KM controller work like a Fiery in terms of its onboard software? Does the software crash? What I had done in case the Fiery software crapped out was I imaged a full copy of the HDD to a different HDD, so when the Fiery crapped out I would just image the good drive onto the bad drive and get up and running within 20 minutes. Are there ISOs that someone could share and I could keep in hand?

P.S. I currently have the service manual and the troubleshooting guide, if anyone has a parts manual or any other useful documentation to share lmk and I'll pm you my email address

[Synthohol]

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[orestesp]

1. IC-605A Software & HDDs
So what I understand is that the IC-605A is an embedded PC stuck on the back of the main engine and it is enabled by plugging in a small IC and adding some additional memory to the engine. In the manual there appears to be 4 HDDs installed in the back, I assume one of them has the controller software running on it. So what happens if the HDD craps out or the software (like in the Fiery) decides to stop working? Do you pull the HDD and image it on a PC with the appropriate software? Are there ISOs floating around for it that I should keep in hand?

2. 25A Service
I currently have 2 x 16A circuits running near the area where the press will be installed that will only be used by the press. I know the manual calls for a 25A service for the C3070/C3080, but the C3070L model requires only a 16A service with a standard schuko plug. Aren't they the same machine after all but keyed to use different toners/drums and only accept basic vs the full range of finishing options?

I will be installing the IEC60309 female plug onto the wall, but I was wondering if I could get away with converting one of the existing 16A service (that the C6500 has been happily using for the last couple of years) to the appropriate plug and then using the other 16A circuit to power the finishers, somewhat distributing the total load over the two circuits. What have you guys seen in the field?

[Synthohol]

what country are you in?
nobody uses IEC60309 plugs in the US, also the copier should be on a single breaker, you cannot "split" the load, thats asking to test your fire insurance.

[orestesp]

what country are you in?
nobody uses IEC60309 plugs in the US, also the copier should be on a single breaker, you cannot "split" the load, thats asking to test your fire insurance.

I'm in Europe, the plug on the machine is a 32A 6h single-phase IEC plug.

By "splitting the load" I mean plugging the engine in one circuit and the external power that the finishers and the relay unit require (4 plugs in total, PF-707m, RU-518, SD-506, FD-503) on the other circuit, so they won't both load the same breaker. Not like connecting the two circuits in parallel.

[Synthohol]

oh ok, i thought you meant there was 2 lines running to the wall so taking the hot from both and combine the ground to one outlet.

[Ziggy]

1. IC-605A Software & HDDs
So what I understand is that the IC-605A is an embedded PC stuck on the back of the main engine and it is enabled by plugging in a small IC and adding some additional memory to the engine. In the manual there appears to be 4 HDDs installed in the back, I assume one of them has the controller software running on it. So what happens if the HDD craps out or the software (like in the Fiery) decides to stop working? Do you pull the HDD and image it on a PC with the appropriate software? Are there ISOs floating around for it that I should keep in hand?

2. 25A Service
I currently have 2 x 16A circuits running near the area where the press will be installed that will only be used by the press. I know the manual calls for a 25A service for the C3070/C3080, but the C3070L model requires only a 16A service with a standard schuko plug. Aren't they the same machine after all but keyed to use different toners/drums and only accept basic vs the full range of finishing options?

I will be installing the IEC60309 female plug onto the wall, but I was wondering if I could get away with converting one of the existing 16A service (that the C6500 has been happily using for the last couple of years) to the appropriate plug and then using the other 16A circuit to power the finishers, somewhat distributing the total load over the two circuits. What have you guys seen in the field?

Install instructions for IC-605a

answer to #2 C3070L is what KM called a light version of the C3080 and C3070. It is limited on what accessories could be attached to it.

[orestesp]

Install instructions for IC-605a

answer to #2 C3070L is what KM called a light version of the C3080 and C3070. It is limited on what accessories could be attached to it.

Thanks for chipping in Ziggy.

The IC-605A is already installed on the machine, my question was mainly a what-if scenario, have you ever had to re-write the software that the integrated KM controller runs on by any chance?

As for #2, yes I agree that is the case, I think it is done purely for market segmentation purposes, where they sell you a slightly less capable machine for less and then sell you a tad more expensive consumables (TN-620 vs TN-619, DU-106 vs DU-105) to make up for it.

From what I see in the manual (check the photo below), basically every other engine model besides the L series needs a 25A service, while the L model only needs 16A.

I was thinking of simply replacing the receptacle from a schuko to the plug that the C3070 has instead of running a new service to the press area, since it would be a massive hassle, and connect the external power of the finishers, etc to a separate circuit, hopefully making this work.

Afterall the main power hog inside the machine is the fuser, and these 2 models can't be that different. The only difference in power consumption comes up from the different finishing configs available for each engine model.