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  • bableprint@gmail.com
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    • Jun 2022
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    #1

    Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

    Hi
    I successfully create c451-firmware write on SanDisk 128Mb using Firmware Imaging Toolkit Vesion 2, the problem is when i put it on the c451-MFP it say "Error. This is invalid Card. Plase make sure the Card." Any Help?
  • JasonSBE
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    • Apr 2014
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    Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

    Getting the CF cards set up properly is a massive pain in the butt. I'm sure someone else here knows more about it than I do but the starting question is what version of windows is on the PC which you are using the set up the card? You're going to want to be using Windows XP or possibly Windows 7. Anything newer than that is usually no good. Even if you use compatibility mode.

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    • Synthohol
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      Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

      Man I haven't dealt with that in a decade.
      I used to use HxDen to write zeros to the drive first.
      If the cf card ever had a windows format ever it won't work unless you totally flush the drive and write zeros with HxDen.
      You may even need to use ftp to load the firmware if the cf card won't work even after cleaning it.
      HxD - Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor | mh-nexus
      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
      The medication helps though...

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      • bableprint@gmail.com
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2022
        • 8

        #4
        Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

        Originally posted by JasonSBE
        Getting the CF cards set up properly is a massive pain in the butt. I'm sure someone else here knows more about it than I do but the starting question is what version of windows is on the PC which you are using the set up the card? You're going to want to be using Windows XP or possibly Windows 7. Anything newer than that is usually no good. Even if you use compatibility mode.

        I used both of XP and win with no seccess.

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        • bableprint@gmail.com
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          • Jun 2022
          • 8

          #5
          Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

          Originally posted by Synthohol
          Man I haven't dealt with that in a decade.
          I used to use HxDen to write zeros to the drive first.
          If the cf card ever had a windows format ever it won't work unless you totally flush the drive and write zeros with HxDen.
          You may even need to use ftp to load the firmware if the cf card won't work even after cleaning it.
          HxD - Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor | mh-nexus
          Can you help me how to Write Zeros to the drive First with HxDen and what is Ftp to load?

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          • Synthohol
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            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

            edit: added PDF
            • OPTION 1: Reformat using Windows

            The CF card can be reformatted in Windows. After reformatting it, DO NOT permit Windows to open the card. Windows will change the drive size, and it will no longer be usable for installing firmware on MFPs.
            IMPORTANT: This procedure does not apply to the CF card for the following models because the FAT16 file format is used: bizhub C200 or bizhub 200/250/350/222/282/362
            These models do not recognize FAT32 or any other format.
            • OPTION 2: Recover the CF card to Factory Default - No OS, No Data

            Use this option if Option 1 is not successful. For detailed step-by-step instructions, refer to the attached "Countermeasure for Formatted CF Card" document. This procedure uses a disk HEX editor (the attached HxDen.zip file) to remove the data that prevents the MFP from loading the firmware.
            CAUTION: This firmware has been used successfully in the the field; however, if the procedure is not followed completely, damage can result in the CF card, which may also damage the MFP. SSD and KMBS have no responsibility for the use or misuse of the procedure and the software that it references.

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            Last edited by Synthohol; 07-20-2022, 04:21 AM.
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
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            • JasonSBE
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              Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

              Originally posted by bableprint@gmail.com
              Can you help me how to Write Zeros to the drive First with HxDen and what is Ftp to load?

              FTP to load is done in service mode using Internet ISW. You have to set up a FTP server and then put the information into the MFP to pull a .tar file that you generate from the firmware. It's an involved process. I used to do it on the C650/C353 systems when we still had them in service because never had any appropriate CF cards. If you have a good card you should probably see if the Gurus here can help you get it set up correctly before you explore that option.

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              • bableprint@gmail.com
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2022
                • 8

                #8
                Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                Originally posted by Synthohol
                edit: added PDF
                • OPTION 1: Reformat using Windows

                The CF card can be reformatted in Windows. After reformatting it, DO NOT permit Windows to open the card. Windows will change the drive size, and it will no longer be usable for installing firmware on MFPs.
                IMPORTANT: This procedure does not apply to the CF card for the following models because the FAT16 file format is used: bizhub C200 or bizhub 200/250/350/222/282/362
                These models do not recognize FAT32 or any other format.
                • OPTION 2: Recover the CF card to Factory Default - No OS, No Data

                Use this option if Option 1 is not successful. For detailed step-by-step instructions, refer to the attached "Countermeasure for Formatted CF Card" document. This procedure uses a disk HEX editor (the attached HxDen.zip file) to remove the data that prevents the MFP from loading the firmware.
                CAUTION: This firmware has been used successfully in the the field; however, if the procedure is not followed completely, damage can result in the CF card, which may also damage the MFP. SSD and KMBS have no responsibility for the use or misuse of the procedure and the software that it references.

                Notes
                Thank you Dear, I am working on it. I will let you know the result.

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                • Albonline
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1131

                  #9
                  Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                  you can telnet into the copier, and use vxworks, embedded there. vxformat if i remember correctly. if you don't know how to telnet to copier, don't even ask.

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                  • bableprint@gmail.com
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                    Originally posted by bableprint@gmail.com
                    Thank you Dear, I am working on it. I will let you know the result.
                    I tried Countermeasure for formatted CF-cards very carefully and format it correctly but Still says Firmware Upade Error This is invalid Card. Any more thing to do Please?

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                    • bableprint@gmail.com
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2022
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                      Originally posted by bableprint@gmail.com
                      Thank you Dear, I am working on it. I will let you know the result.

                      I tried Countermeasure for formatted CF-cards very carefully and format it correctly but Still says Firmware Upade Error This is invalid Card. Any more thing to do Please?

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                      • bableprint@gmail.com
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2022
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                        Originally posted by Synthohol
                        edit: added PDF
                        • OPTION 1: Reformat using Windows

                        The CF card can be reformatted in Windows. After reformatting it, DO NOT permit Windows to open the card. Windows will change the drive size, and it will no longer be usable for installing firmware on MFPs.
                        IMPORTANT: This procedure does not apply to the CF card for the following models because the FAT16 file format is used: bizhub C200 or bizhub 200/250/350/222/282/362
                        These models do not recognize FAT32 or any other format.
                        • OPTION 2: Recover the CF card to Factory Default - No OS, No Data

                        Use this option if Option 1 is not successful. For detailed step-by-step instructions, refer to the attached "Countermeasure for Formatted CF Card" document. This procedure uses a disk HEX editor (the attached HxDen.zip file) to remove the data that prevents the MFP from loading the firmware.
                        CAUTION: This firmware has been used successfully in the the field; however, if the procedure is not followed completely, damage can result in the CF card, which may also damage the MFP. SSD and KMBS have no responsibility for the use or misuse of the procedure and the software that it references.

                        Notes

                        I tried Countermeasure for formatted CF-cards very carefully and format it correctly but Still says Firmware Upade Error This is invalid Card. Any more thing to do Please?

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                        • techsxge
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                          • Jan 2022
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                          #13
                          Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                          Originally posted by Synthohol
                          edit: added PDF
                          • OPTION 1: Reformat using Windows

                          The CF card can be reformatted in Windows. After reformatting it, DO NOT permit Windows to open the card. Windows will change the drive size, and it will no longer be usable for installing firmware on MFPs.
                          IMPORTANT: This procedure does not apply to the CF card for the following models because the FAT16 file format is used: bizhub C200 or bizhub 200/250/350/222/282/362
                          These models do not recognize FAT32 or any other format.
                          • OPTION 2: Recover the CF card to Factory Default - No OS, No Data

                          Use this option if Option 1 is not successful. For detailed step-by-step instructions, refer to the attached "Countermeasure for Formatted CF Card" document. This procedure uses a disk HEX editor (the attached HxDen.zip file) to remove the data that prevents the MFP from loading the firmware.
                          CAUTION: This firmware has been used successfully in the the field; however, if the procedure is not followed completely, damage can result in the CF card, which may also damage the MFP. SSD and KMBS have no responsibility for the use or misuse of the procedure and the software that it references.

                          Notes
                          This sounds to me as you could even use any modern windows and just format to FAT16 without registering a partition in windows

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                          • techsxge
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica bizhub C451 Firmware Error

                            Originally posted by Albonline
                            you can telnet into the copier, and use vxworks, embedded there. vxformat if i remember correctly. if you don't know how to telnet to copier, don't even ask.

                            I never thought about telnet into the machines but heck yeah that would work i'm going to do something tomorrow

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