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  • otphas
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    Bizhub 958 print very light

    We have a issue with Bzh 958 , print is very very light , values in Level History 1 and 2 is normal. Also coming warning P-9 . Transfer belt and roller seems ok , ID sensor also was cleaned and seems ok. Any tips ?
  • Toxic
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    #2
    Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

    Some more info would be useful...
    Counter, consumables life,toner OEM or some replacement...

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    • allan
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      #3
      Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

      Post a half tone at 125 and 255. That also helps.
      Whatever

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      • tsbservice
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        Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

        Too old developer? ITB 3 x over life?
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        • otphas
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          Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

          Hi guys,

          counter is 319K, all parts and toner are OEM and life counter is ok, no one part is over the life. Half tone or 255 doesnt matter, print very light
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          • femaster
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            #6
            Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

            Originally posted by otphas
            Hi guys,

            counter is 319K, all parts and toner are OEM and life counter is ok, no one part is over the life. Half tone or 255 doesnt matter, print very light
            One thing to check with output like that is to make sure the development unit / mag roller is turning. On some of the older models with a similar dev/drum setup, I've come across a few instances where the cog on the back of the dev unit broke, or the cog in the copier came loose, and the dev unit was no longer rotating resulting in output that looks just like that. An easy way to check is to take a cloth and wipe a small area on the mag roller bare, try to run a copy and then take a look at the mag roller again. If the bare spot is still there, you know it's not turning.
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            • Toxic
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              #7
              Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

              Maybe check this

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              • otphas
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                Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                Tomorrow will make this test for sure!

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                • Woxner
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                  Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                  if dev unit is turning then i going with maybe wrong toner. i have seen the numbers look right but toner was the issue. had this before even on smaller machines.

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                  • tsbservice
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                    Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                    Originally posted by Woxner
                    if dev unit is turning then i going with maybe wrong toner. i have seen the numbers look right but toner was the issue. had this before even on smaller machines.
                    Wouldn't that being seen on mag roller?
                    A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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                    • Woxner
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                      Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                      Oddly enough it still looked like a good blk. I had inmates put ricoh toner in and the dev unit looked good

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                      • otphas
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                        Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                        Hello,

                        today we checked dev unit and all seems ok, gears are in good condition and developer roller turning smoothly. We found that charge on the corona grid is not ok, must be 700-800V, ours is around 200V , all cables for high voltage are checked and all is ok with them too. So we think that something is wrong with HV1 board.

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                        • tsbservice
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                          Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                          Originally posted by otphas
                          Hello,

                          today we checked dev unit and all seems ok, gears are in good condition and developer roller turning smoothly. We found that charge on the corona grid is not ok, must be 700-800V, ours is around 200V , all cables for high voltage are checked and all is ok with them too. So we think that something is wrong with HV1 board.
                          But you stated Vdc and Vg are looking normal in state confirmation under table 1 and 2...
                          What about Vpp reading?
                          A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                          Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                          • allan
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                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                            Originally posted by otphas
                            Hi guys,

                            counter is 319K, all parts and toner are OEM and life counter is ok, no one part is over the life. Half tone or 255 doesnt matter, print very light
                            Something fishy about that demo print. There is only a single tone on there and even where the image of the bird should be there should be some white blotches.
                            Ouch not liking it. Hope its a HV issue that is messing with the image processing there.
                            Whatever

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                            • Toxic
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                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub 958 print very light

                              Yes, that is really strange.
                              Did you try to stop machine during printing and check image on drum is it also faded same as on paper?

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