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  • Hansoon
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    • Sep 2007
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    BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

    In all the years these BH-C-280/360 series being around, I never had an issue with the manual feed table lifting. Now I have one where the table goes up and immediately falls back into the down position. Could imagine a sticky patch in SD1 responsible for this.

    According to the manual, I have to remove the right vertical door, (yikes.....) to come to the solenoid SD1 and cam thingy. Do you guys have a workaround to make the procedure easier and less troublesome, please?

    Hans
    “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

    Tags: cam, feed, manual, table
    • techsxge
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      Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

      Sounds more like the motor is too weak or the gears are broken?
      Does it work normally if you help it lifting up and hold it until the motor moves it down again?

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        • Hansoon
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          Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

          Originally posted by techsxge
          Sounds more like the motor is too weak or the gears are broken?
          Does it work normally if you help it lifting up and hold it until the motor moves it down again?
          Good question. Didn't try that yet, but sometimes it works without a problem. Most of the time, the customer put only one sheet on the manual feed table. When I tried it with the test mode, having 50 sheets on it, it worked flawless.

          Got from the beginning here that "Sticky Patch" feeling........

          Hans
          “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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            • blackcat4866
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              • Jul 2007
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              Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

              The only thing that I've seen is the post at the front or rear breaking on that lift plate. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • techsxge
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                  Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

                  Either we have the same customer or this is one of the biggest coincidences so far becuase i got a call an hour ago:
                  Same Machine, same problem. Like actually the same. Sporadic manual feed lifting problems.
                  Customer reported abnormal noise, but its quiet so not too sure if its normal and he never heard it or if it might be a dying motor rn

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                    • tsbservice
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                      • May 2007
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                      Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

                      Hans, what is jam code, please?
                      here is some Youtube video:
                      Konica Minolta C280 service bypass unit solenoid - YouTube
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                        • Hansoon
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                          Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

                          Originally posted by tsbservice
                          Hans, what is jam code, please?
                          here is some Youtube video:
                          Konica Minolta C280 service bypass unit solenoid - YouTube
                          Thanks! That's exactly I was afraid of........

                          The guy has more trouble cutting a new patch than removing that whole door itself, LOL
                          But I'm grateful, seeing this.

                          Hans
                          “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                            • femaster
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                              Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

                              Originally posted by Hansoon
                              Thanks! That's exactly I was afraid of........

                              The guy has more trouble cutting a new patch than removing that whole door itself, LOL
                              But I'm grateful, seeing this.

                              Hans
                              Was going to say, I just removed a C360 door for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it really wasn't all that hard to get off. I was expecting it to be a lot worse than it was.
                              A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                              My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                                • techsxge
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                                  Re: BH-C-280, manual feed lift table

                                  Hans, if your customer called today that the problem went away i have to say that we must have the same customer... Although we live and work at the other side of the country...

                                  Fixed my customer byreplacing the gears doing the lifting

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