KM-30/40/5035 Toner from Katun

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  • 10871087
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2005
    • 1145

    KM-30/40/5035 Toner from Katun

    has anyone tried the Katun toner for the KM-2530, KM-3530, KM-4030 from Katun? any recommendations?
  • higherlevel
    Technician
    • Aug 2006
    • 30

    #2
    Have not tried Katun Toner..just Polek toner..and FORGET USING POLEK TONER IN THESE MACHINE....To many Developer smearing marks or light copy problems...We are using Polek Color toner though for Konica Minolta C350 Bizhub's..and have not had any problem...

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    • Captech33

      #3
      Trying toner

      Just got a shipment of jdepmsey toner in and are trying it now

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      • copymanb

        #4
        Originally posted by Captech33
        Just got a shipment of jdepmsey toner in and are trying it now
        I've been looking for just the bags of toner to re-fill the 5 empties I have in stock. P.R. wants like $45.00 just for the toner.. They used to sell it for $25.00 and I could live with that, but they won't budge...
        Big Bill

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        • Mark B
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jul 2006
          • 153

          #5
          Give me a break do not even start with the katan toner

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          • dqydj
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jun 2005
            • 64

            #6
            My experience with katun toner is you better be using katun developer
            as well.
            It works with some machines and others just puke.
            I don't care much for katun stuff although they do have
            pretty good press rollers for certain models.

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            • kmking
              Technician
              • Aug 2006
              • 21

              #7
              Toner Issues..

              Never use Katun toner...It destroys the lower drum seal..and u will lose copy quality..the amount of Silicon in the toner is not very high..therefore causing the drum seal to erode away..pay that little bit extra and you will save in the long run...be aware that the new KYO printers 5th generation,dragon series can and will detect NON genuine toner has been installed...take this onboard...

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              • pat
                Technician
                • Mar 2007
                • 16

                #8
                We're using the katun toners for Olivetti d25/d35/d40 (same as km2530/3530/4030), i guess we start using them about half a year ago as far as i know there weren't any major problems this far.

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                • troyboy

                  #9
                  i have been using katun toner in my machines now for about 6 months. so far i haven't had any problems. however it does seem quality of fill is somewhat suspicious. but all my machines are on contract and the difference of price compared to oem is huge. i am keeping my fingers crossed. troy

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                  • Spank6482
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 66

                    #10
                    Originally posted by troyboy
                    i have been using katun toner in my machines now for about 6 months. so far i haven't had any problems. however it does seem quality of fill is somewhat suspicious. but all my machines are on contract and the difference of price compared to oem is huge. i am keeping my fingers crossed. troy

                    Just wait until your developing units start to fail after about 250-300k. Not every one of them will fail but you will have some issues. Katun makes a great fuser roller and an OK feed tire but the charge/bias/toner/laser/drum setup on the current equipment from all the manufactures are just too sensitive to start messing around with. If you think the savings are that big go for it but please don't forget to factor in a bunch of future CQ calls and the cost of finding new customers after they buy their next machine from someone else.

                    Use the aftermarket shit in your old analogs but don't get too greedy and end up paying more in the long run.

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                    • pat
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Ahum, I had a broken developer this week, The developer was totally stuck, result c2000. I opened the developer to find out that the toner on one side of the cilinder looked like it melted. When I removed the doctor blade the strip on the underside was pushed away on that particular side.

                      Premier symptomes?

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                      • kyoceradude
                        The Great Gazoo

                        250+ Posts
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 442

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pat
                        Ahum, I had a broken developer this week, The developer was totally stuck, result c2000. I opened the developer to find out that the toner on one side of the cilinder looked like it melted. When I removed the doctor blade the strip on the underside was pushed away on that particular side.

                        Premier symptomes?
                        One thing that is very important on these machines (falcon 1 and 2). Make sure you check and clean the filters on every service call. One filter is located in the bypass unit (on top). The second filter you need to remove the lower right cover. It is located on the right side. If the filters are clogged the machine will not pull in cool air to help cool the dv and drum units causing lots of copy quality problems. ie: toner sticking to mag roller and doctor blade. Also dv units have been modified more than once. Part number should end with at least 15 for the newest version.
                        Last edited by kyoceradude; 03-02-2007, 07:12 PM. Reason: additional info
                        My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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                        • Duke
                          Technician
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 19

                          #13
                          Katun toner

                          I will not use Katun toner in the new machines at all, to many quality problems. The older machines seem to handle it okay if you change the developer to katun as well....Duke

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                          • troyboy

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Spank6482
                            Just wait until your developing units start to fail after about 250-300k. Not every one of them will fail but you will have some issues. Katun makes a great fuser roller and an OK feed tire but the charge/bias/toner/laser/drum setup on the current equipment from all the manufactures are just too sensitive to start messing around with. If you think the savings are that big go for it but please don't forget to factor in a bunch of future CQ calls and the cost of finding new customers after they buy their next machine from someone else.

                            Use the aftermarket shit in your old analogs but don't get too greedy and end up paying more in the long run.
                            thanks for your concern and input. but i'll take my chances.

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                            • SPAWN

                              #15
                              Some Problems I've Seen

                              Originally posted by 10871087
                              has anyone tried the Katun toner for the KM-2530, KM-3530, KM-4030 from Katun? any recommendations?

                              Looks like the copies come out light sometimes all black, the reason? the developer magnet roller gets damage for light copies and the main charger grid get clogged with toner and caused the black copies at the end the customer has to replace DV, Drum, transfer and main charger.

                              For me is not good enough. Good luck if you try it.

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