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  • rtrnr
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 5

    3550idn c1010 cassette failure

    As the title says, I have a c1010 headache. I checked the cassette, and connectors and everything is fine. Still a cassette error with 1010 codes. The motor lift appears to stall a little when I activate the switch.

    I'm going to take a lift motor with me next time but I'm worried a gear or the frame may be busted. Any advice?
  • JR2ALTA
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2010
    • 2017

    #2
    Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

    3550idn Frame busted


    ticking sound fs-4300 and Ecosys M3550idn

    The gear post broke. You have to tear it apart.

    Just replace with a ct-3100 cassette. It's spring loaded. Tell customer it was an update.

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    • Geo
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Nov 2010
      • 660

      #3
      Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

      Originally posted by JR2ALTA
      3550idn Frame busted


      ticking sound fs-4300 and Ecosys M3550idn

      The gear post broke. You have to tear it apart.

      Just replace with a ct-3100 cassette. It's spring loaded. Tell customer it was an update.
      But it's just so much fun and an "experience" replacing the guide...especially in a cramped clients office.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        • Jul 2007
        • 22702

        #4
        Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

        Originally posted by Geo
        But it's just so much fun and an "experience" replacing the guide...especially in a cramped clients office.
        Yeah, there isn't much left on the frame by the time you've got the part changed. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • rtrnr
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 5

          #5
          Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

          Glad I posted this. I didn't think to try the cassette with a spring. Thanks.

          You have to wear a hair net face mask and large smock in a tiny little stinky office. Ripping apart the frame there is an absolute nightmare.

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          • JR2ALTA
            Service Manager

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            • Feb 2010
            • 2017

            #6
            Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

            Originally posted by rtrnr
            Glad I posted this.
            Then feel free to "like/thank" my post. Also be sure to snip off the little plastic nub on the left side of the ct-3100 or it won't slide in.

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            • kjg
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 111

              #7
              Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

              For those of you who have broken posts and need to replace the lower right frame to correct, you can try the following.
              I have done this several times over the past 2 years and all our techs do it here where I work. All you need is a machine screw long enough to go through the frame and a T-nut(with the barbs flattened), and a drill. Works great and can be completed in a fraction of the time.
              I hope it helps a few of you.
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              • kjg
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Mar 2009
                • 111

                #8
                Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                I waited to post that to see how well the fix worked over time. It performs very well. Just don't over-tighten the screw. It will click if you do. If you hear clicking when the tray raises, just turn the screw out a bit and re-tighten. I think the post may rotate inside some since it is broken and you can turn it back to where it was. also - the material is VERY THIN. Be sure to drill straight and remove the cross hatched reinforcement on the side where the T-nut goes in.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22702

                  #9
                  Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                  Originally posted by kjg
                  I waited to post that to see how well the fix worked over time. It performs very well. Just don't over-tighten the screw. It will click if you do. If you hear clicking when the tray raises, just turn the screw out a bit and re-tighten. I think the post may rotate inside some since it is broken and you can turn it back to where it was. also - the material is VERY THIN. Be sure to drill straight and remove the cross hatched reinforcement on the side where the T-nut goes in.
                  I like the idea. But the couple that I worked on, the post was shattered and none of the parts properly lined up. I can't imagine it working in that situation. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • kjg
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 111

                    #10
                    Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    I like the idea. But the couple that I worked on, the post was shattered and none of the parts properly lined up. I can't imagine it working in that situation. =^..^=
                    I would have to agree that might not work in that situation. All those I worked on thus far, the post was sheered off. This corrected it with no difficulties encountered. Thanks for the input.

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                    • nathicana
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 322

                      #11
                      Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                      Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                      3550idn Frame busted


                      ticking sound fs-4300 and Ecosys M3550idn

                      The gear post broke. You have to tear it apart.

                      Just replace with a ct-3100 cassette. It's spring loaded. Tell customer it was an update.
                      I just tried putting the spring loaded cassette in an M3550idn and I'm still getting the "error in cassette 1" failure.

                      I broke off the piece on the left side of the cassette that was preventing it from going into the machine.

                      When I insert the cassette the lift motor runs and the error happens. What am I missing?

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                      • sparkycivic
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 348

                        #12
                        Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                        the lift sensor at the feed roller assy needs to be satisfied by the paper pressing upward. remove the spring from the assy to ensure that it can be satisfied more easily.

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                        • JR2ALTA
                          Service Manager

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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2017

                          #13
                          Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                          Originally posted by sparkycivic
                          the lift sensor at the feed roller assy needs to be satisfied by the paper pressing upward. remove the spring from the assy to ensure that it can be satisfied more easily.
                          Sorry, but no. Removing the spring in the feed roller assy with result in odd jams, slow printing.

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                          • sparkycivic
                            Trusted Tech

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                            • Apr 2017
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                            #14
                            Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                            Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                            Sorry, but no. Removing the spring in the feed roller assy with result in odd jams, slow printing.
                            That's only true if you're still trying to use the motorized-lift cassette.

                            The spring-lifted machine uses no spring in the feed unit, replicating that design with this modification will be the path to success. There will be steady pressure applied between the top sheet and the feed roller by the spring, where if it were a motorized cassette and the spring were missing, pressure would be intermittent as the motor lift only occurs when the feed unit drops out of the photo-interruptor.

                            I've done it several times in my fleet of M-series desktops without issue.

                            Come to think of it... that could be how the motor assy broke in the first place... sensor malfunction causing it to lift forever til something gave. that's quite the gear ratio going-on in there.

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                            • skinnypuppy
                              CopierJanitor/Geargluer

                              50+ Posts
                              • May 2008
                              • 84

                              #15
                              Re: 3550idn c1010 cassette failure

                              Originally posted by sparkycivic
                              That's only true if you're still trying to use the motorized-lift cassette.

                              The spring-lifted machine uses no spring in the feed unit, replicating that design with this modification will be the path to success. There will be steady pressure applied between the top sheet and the feed roller by the spring, where if it were a motorized cassette and the spring were missing, pressure would be intermittent as the motor lift only occurs when the feed unit drops out of the photo-interruptor.

                              I've done it several times in my fleet of M-series desktops without issue.

                              Come to think of it... that could be how the motor assy broke in the first place... sensor malfunction causing it to lift forever til something gave. that's quite the gear ratio going-on in there.
                              I know this post is a couple of years old but what model does the ct-3100 cassette come from and is it a pf unit or the main cassette for the model
                              Thanks

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