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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

    I have a Kyocera 4551ci. All the colors look good except black. There's a wide white band 13mm wide. I've replaced drum, PCR and developer. Kinda of at a loss. Any help is appreciated. See examples below.

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  • Phil B.
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    Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    I have a Kyocera 4551ci. All the colors look good except black. There's a wide white band 13mm wide. I've replaced drum, PCR and developer. Kinda of at a loss. Any help is appreciated. See examples below.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]47454[/ATTACH]
    print or copy?

    did you clean the optics?

    is scan lamp back at HP?

    how many pages on PM parts?

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      print or copy?

      did you clean the optics?

      is scan lamp back at HP?

      how many pages on PM parts?
      The examples I posted are the internal color test charts. It's only doing it on black and the K drum, DV unit and PCR are new. Just installed. I'm thinking it may be the laser slit glass but I'm not sure how to clean it. I'm looking for it in the manual. Don't see it yet.
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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        The examples I posted are the internal color test charts. It's only doing it on black and the K drum, DV unit and PCR are new. Just installed. I'm thinking it may be the laser slit glass but I'm not sure how to clean it. I'm looking for it in the manual. Don't see it yet.

        Okay, I see how to clean the laser slit glass. I'll give that a try tomorrow. Still, if anyone has any idea of what the problem is, please let me know.
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        • Tricky
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          Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

          Black laser polygon mirror?

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

            Originally posted by skynet
            Black laser polygon mirror?
            I don't know. This is about the only area of this model that I've never had to mess with. I'm hoping it's just a dirty laser slit glass.
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            • tsbservice
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              Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

              Something is obstructing laser path. You have to find what. Maybe a some debris or piece of paper or even dead cockroach.
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              • copier tech
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                Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                I have a Kyocera 4551ci. All the colors look good except black. There's a wide white band 13mm wide. I've replaced drum, PCR and developer. Kinda of at a loss. Any help is appreciated. See examples below.

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]47454[/ATTACH]
                If this was fed SEF it looks like the laser cleaner is stuck?
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                • tsbservice
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                  Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                  Originally posted by copier tech
                  If this was fed SEF it looks like the laser cleaner is stuck?
                  It's parallel to paper path, Billy marked it so I guess your suggestion is even more valid than mine.
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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    If this was fed SEF it looks like the laser cleaner is stuck?

                    Could be. I'll be at their office bright and early in the morning. It's easy enough to remove the metal cover over the slit glass where the laser cleaner arm resides. For good measure, I just uninstalled the laser unit from a machine in the shop. I had never done that before. Wasn't that bad.
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                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      If this was fed SEF it looks like the laser cleaner is stuck?

                      You're probably right. I thought it was strange that the the void area had well defined edges. If it was a dead roach or some other obstruction, it wouldn't be so precise of a void area. I'll bet you that the cleaning pad is exactly the width of that white band. I think you nailed it. We'll find out tomorrow.
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                      • Ropariva
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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                          +1 on the stalled laser slit glass cleaner. IIRC the cleaner is part of the laser unit itself, and not purchasable separately. You will need to entirely remove the laser unit to repair or replace this.

                          The thing to watch for when your manually driving the cleaner through its travel, is that when it reaches the end of it's travel there is some spring pressure holding the cleaner against the threads. If the spring pressure is inadequate the cleaner will cross-thread and jam or never catch and stall at the end. I have stretched those springs a bit, to make sure they're pressing back at the end of the travel. Also clean as much dirt out of the worm and use white grease to lubricate it.

                          I know it's counter-intuitive to grease it when the grease can collect dirt, but it does need the grease. =^..^=
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                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                            I don't think I've ever had a problem with a machine that someone didn't have the answer to. Let's keep the streak going.
                            Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 12-01-2020, 01:14 AM.
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                            • blackcat4866
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                              Re: Kyocera 4551ci - wide white band on black only

                              Is it a particularly dirty environment? =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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