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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
    • 22999

    #16
    Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

    Originally posted by lama0900
    Can I also clean out the DV with compressed air ?
    I don't have access to a toner vacumer.


    Thank you
    I would very much like to see that ... from a safe distance! LOL! =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • lama0900
      Technician
      • May 2021
      • 15

      #17
      Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      I would very much like to see that ... from a safe distance! LOL! =^..^=
      First I've to find out how to open the DV without getting completely full with toner.

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      • blackcat4866
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        #18
        Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

        Originally posted by lama0900
        First I've to find out how to open the DV without getting completely full with toner.
        Don't worry about that. Once you point compressed air at the developing unit, everything within a meter will be entirely covered with toner.

        I once had a customer dump a toner waste bottle in the front yard, on a snowy very windy day. It's hard to describe the artistry of the 4 litres of color waste toner distributed over most of the yard, and most of the person, then just swirling around when the wind blew ... it was beautiful! =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • lama0900
          Technician
          • May 2021
          • 15

          #19
          Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          Don't worry about that. Once you point compressed air at the developing unit, everything within a meter will be entirely covered with toner.

          I once had a customer dump a toner waste bottle in the front yard, on a snowy very windy day. It's hard to describe the artistry of the 4 litres of color waste toner distributed over most of the yard, and most of the person, then just swirling around when the wind blew ... it was beautiful! =^..^=
          So then it would be better to vacuum it. But I can't do that with a normal (old) vacuumer (even outside)???

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          • blackcat4866
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            #20
            Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

            Originally posted by lama0900
            So then it would be better to vacuum it. But I can't do that with a normal (old) vacuumer (even outside)???
            Correct. If I was in your position I would CAREFULLY, dump out as much toner as I could onto a large piece of paper (not outdoors, not windy), and not worry about getting it all. It will end up on the back of your paper for just a little while longer. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • lama0900
              Technician
              • May 2021
              • 15

              #21
              Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

              Originally posted by blackcat4866
              Correct. If I was in your position I would CAREFULLY, dump out as much toner as I could onto a large piece of paper (not outdoors, not windy), and not worry about getting it all. It will end up on the back of your paper for just a little while longer. =^..^=
              Okay, maybe you can share your knowledge: how to open the dv if not by drilling a hole in it?!

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              • Santander
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                • May 2009
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                #22
                Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                Originally posted by lama0900
                Okay, maybe you can share your knowledge: how to open the dv if not by drilling a hole in it?!
                No drilling required [or recommended]. Simply remove the two screws holding the doctor blade and remove it, then start vacuuming rotating the gears occasionally to move the toner from the rear of the DV to the point where you can vacuum it. Don't forget to vacuum the roller as well.

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                • blackcat4866
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                  #23
                  Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                  Originally posted by Santander
                  No drilling required [or recommended]. Simply remove the two screws holding the doctor blade and remove it, then start vacuuming rotating the gears occasionally to move the toner from the rear of the DV to the point where you can vacuum it. Don't forget to vacuum the roller as well.
                  He doesn't have a vacuum, so he'll just be dumping as much as he can. Being mono-component, it won't stick to the mag roller very much. Wear latex gloves to avoid getting finger oil on the developing roller or you'll get mottling on the developing roller. Dry wipe away any lumps on the developing roller.
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • lama0900
                    Technician
                    • May 2021
                    • 15

                    #24
                    Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                    That one seems like what I should do but with latex gloves ?

                    Kyocera DV-1130, DV-1140, DV-140, DV-160, DV-170 DV-1100 - YouTube


                    (.. but I cannot read the russian hieroglyphs)

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                    • blackcat4866
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                      #25
                      Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                      Without the vacuum you won't be able to get the unit quite that clean, but that's the basic idea. And you don't have to read Russian to understand what he's doing. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • lama0900
                        Technician
                        • May 2021
                        • 15

                        #26
                        Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        Without the vacuum you won't be able to get the unit quite that clean, but that's the basic idea. And you don't have to read Russian to understand what he's doing. =^..^=
                        Cleaned with vacuumer. Waiting for the original TK-170 to arrive.
                        After that I'll write again with the results.
                        Should I vacuum the transfer roller as well?

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                        • KYO_OEM
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                          #27
                          Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner


                          clean everything

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                          • lama0900
                            Technician
                            • May 2021
                            • 15

                            #28
                            Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                            Originally posted by KYO_OEM

                            clean everything
                            Thought some parts are "DON'T TOUCH WITH NOTHING"

                            But then. I got a toner vacuumer from a friend.

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                            • blackcat4866
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                              #29
                              Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                              Generally, I do not touch foamy transfer rollers unless I have an issue directly attributable to it, for example, the circumference of the roller matches the interval of a repeating defect.

                              There was one notable exception on a Kyocera FS-4200. The enduser had " ... cleaned it for me, but was having trouble installing the maintenance kit they bought online." It indeed was a maintenance kit, but not for a FS-4200 ... no surprise the parts did not fit. And whatever they cleaned the transfer roller with must have been oily, because it left a very distinctive repetitive defect. Three or four cleanings with glass cleaner left me with the original issue: poor drum cleaning 150K past the PM interval.

                              It you aren't having a specific issue don't touch. =^..^=
                              Last edited by blackcat4866; 05-26-2021, 07:41 PM.
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                              • lama0900
                                Technician
                                • May 2021
                                • 15

                                #30
                                Re: Kyocera P2135dn - back of paper toner

                                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                                Generally, I do not touch foamy transfer rollers unless I have an issue directly attributable to it, for example, the circumference of the roller matches the interval of a repeating defect.

                                There was one notable exception on a Kyocera FS-4200. The enduser had " ... cleaned it for me, but was having trouble installing the maintenance kit they bought online." It indeed was a maintenance kit, but not for a FS-4200 ... no surprise the parts did not fit. And whatever they cleaned the transfer roller with must have been oily, because it left a very distinctive repetitive defect. Three or four cleanings with glass cleaner left me with the original issue: poor drum cleaning 150K past the PM interval.

                                It you aren't having a specific issue don't touch. =^..^=

                                Thank you for the help. Vacuuming out the DV and then using a original kyo toner did it. I had to go to "service -> developer" and "reboot" the printer, then it took 10 Minutes to fill the DV.
                                Now the paper is finally clean on the backside again.

                                Hopefully it's doing again 20k pages in the next 10 years now (hah)

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