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  • fishleg
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    • Mar 2009
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    #16
    Re: P3060 Jamming

    Originally posted by sparkycivic
    When that lift motor geartrain breaks, I much prefer to swap the cassette to the spring lifted model from the slower models, and remove the spring from the feed roller assembly to accommodate.

    We don't have any really high count printers of 500k+, so I'm glad to hear about the registration sensor actuator and will keep an eye for that just in case...
    Woah and it works? The spring tray just slides in and works really???

    Awful to swap that black part I've only did one and was pretty amazed it worked after.

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    • sparkycivic
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      #17
      Re: P3060 Jamming

      Originally posted by fishleg
      Woah and it works? The spring tray just slides in and works really???
      Just gotta chop a little tab off the left side that stops it from going into the slot, and make sure the lift sensor gets satisfied when the cassette is in, and run lots of test pages to make sure it won't jam. Only once, I had to block the lift sensor because the motor was coding instantly. I have a bunch of machines running fine like this...

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      • fishleg
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        #18
        Re: P3060 Jamming

        Originally posted by sparkycivic
        Just gotta chop a little tab off the left side that stops it from going into the slot, and make sure the lift sensor gets satisfied when the cassette is in, and run lots of test pages to make sure it won't jam. Only once, I had to block the lift sensor because the motor was coding instantly. I have a bunch of machines running fine like this...
        Cool that's a pretty awesome hack be a good temp fix to get someone working or leave permanently. I never understood why they went with a motor lift just seems so complex when it doesn't need to be or atleast split the housing so the lift part can be accessed easily. We can pray and hope someone in Japan changes it .

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        • KYO_OEM
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          • Aug 2011
          • 684

          #19
          Re: P3060 Jamming

          Only 1 question:
          Did you attached the retard roller unit in the right way?

          Here the note from service manual:
          IMPORTANT
          Install the cassette first when attaching the retard roller unit. The retard pressure release lever must be
          located at the machine front side from the retard roller unit to apply appropriate pressure.

          I received several claims regarding J0501 + J0511 because of wrong mounting procedure from field technicians..

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          • Scottb
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            #20
            Re: P3060 Jamming

            Originally posted by KYO_OEM
            Only 1 question:
            Did you attached the retard roller unit in the right way?

            Here the note from service manual:
            IMPORTANT
            Install the cassette first when attaching the retard roller unit. The retard pressure release lever must be
            located at the machine front side from the retard roller unit to apply appropriate pressure.

            I received several claims regarding J0501 + J0511 because of wrong mounting procedure from field technicians..

            could be...its cramped and they are always in a hurry. we have brought it in the shop but I havent had the time to check it out. I'll post the problem when I find whats wrong...
            thanks everyone for the help

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            • JR2ALTA
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              • Feb 2010
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              #21
              Re: P3060 Jamming

              Was on a P3260dn today. 511 out of tray 1 and 4012 out tray 2. Both pointed to registration sensor staying ON. Turned out to be dusty reg sensor thank goodness, the machine only has 50k on it. I think I could've gotten air to it just by spraying down into the cavity but I took off the duplex and got to the sensors directly. They are mounted on the HV board (?)

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              • blackcat4866
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                • Jul 2007
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                #22
                Re: P3060 Jamming

                Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                Was on a P3260dn today. 511 out of tray 1 and 4012 out tray 2. Both pointed to registration sensor staying ON. Turned out to be dusty reg sensor thank goodness, the machine only has 50k on it. I think I could've gotten air to it just by spraying down into the cavity but I took off the duplex and got to the sensors directly. They are mounted on the HV board (?)
                I've had success with this method on Gen5 and Gen6. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • JR2ALTA
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                  • Feb 2010
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                  #23
                  Re: P3060 Jamming

                  True true. I assumed the registration flag was a longer shaft going left or right to a sensor. Turns out it's a small actuator right above the sensor, so that's good to know.

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                  • nathicana
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                    • Aug 2008
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                    #24
                    Re: P3060 Jamming

                    Originally posted by eystulua
                    clean dust from the optical sensor reflect area on the drum unit machine side , check /replace high voltage pwb (contains the regist sensor)
                    Thanks, this helped me fix a machine that was plagued with the insidious 0511, 0519 jams.

                    There is an inset reflective area for registration sensor 2 under the drum unit that must be kept clean on M3655 and M3660 machines and the faster printers such as the P3060. You could paint it white on the M3145 and M3645 machines and there would be no problem because the sensor does not exist.

                    j0511 and j0519 are supposed to mean there are multiple sheets or a problem with registration sensor 3. So a lot of effort can be directed to feed separation or the high voltage board where registration sensor 3 is mounted. Blowing air down onto registration sensor 3 seems to make the problem go away because the air inadvertently cleans the critical area which is just in front of the registration roller.

                    3655 jams.pdf

                    reflective area.jpg

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                    • skinnypuppy
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                      • May 2008
                      • 85

                      #25
                      Re: P3060 Jamming

                      Originally posted by nathicana
                      Thanks, this helped me fix a machine that was plagued with the insidious 0511, 0519 jams.

                      There is an inset reflective area for registration sensor 2 under the drum unit that must be kept clean on M3655 and M3660 machines and the faster printers such as the P3060. You could paint it white on the M3145 and M3645 machines and there would be no problem because the sensor does not exist.

                      j0511 and j0519 are supposed to mean there are multiple sheets or a problem with registration sensor 3. So a lot of effort can be directed to feed separation or the high voltage board where registration sensor 3 is mounted. Blowing air down onto registration sensor 3 seems to make the problem go away because the air inadvertently cleans the critical area which is just in front of the registration roller.

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                      This is brilliant I have done a few reg sensor located on the HV board replace and clean and always seems to correct the problem In retrospect it was probably turning the machine onto it's back and inadvertently shaking the paper dust in the area under the drum as you mentioned that likely solved the problem. I must admit I never knew about the sensor located in the drum unit.

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