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  • brianSTX
    Technician
    • Jan 2010
    • 12

    [CQ] Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

    Oce pw365 with 21k linear meters, exhibiting intermittent 3"(76mm) void cross feed, otherwise CQ is excellent.
    recently replaced charge assy. and developer.

    Oce image void.jpgany ideas would be appreciated
    Brian
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22705

    #2
    Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

    Is the developer unit agitating? I would suspect loss of developing drive.

    Since the image is still correctly aligned, the drum must have continued to turn. And charge loss would present as black images.
    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • brianSTX
      Technician
      • Jan 2010
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      Is the developer unit agitating? I would suspect loss of developing drive.

      Since the image is still correctly aligned, the drum must have continued to turn. And charge loss would present as black images.
      =^..^=
      Good point BC. problem is very intermittent (once in 50 D prints), and the blank area is ~ 76mm (circumference of the dv roller) any thoughts on possible cause of intermittent loss of dv drive?
      Thanks for your help,
      Brian

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      • allan
        RTFM!!

        5,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2010
        • 5445

        #4
        Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

        Just double checking. You feed direction is from top to bottom as per you photo?
        Does not make sense that it will loose drive for only a single rotation.

        Can for sure be the dev drive.
        Also look at transfer and dev bias contacts.
        Don't think it could be the print head, there seems to be a bit of an image in the void but possible.

        What a pain to recreate. Ever 50 pages on that is not something you can wait for or do on site.
        A bit blind.
        Whatever

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
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          • Jul 2007
          • 22705

          #5
          Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

          Sorry, I haven't the faintest idea what this Oce' looks like. My thoughts are based on laser print engine theory. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • brianSTX
            Technician
            • Jan 2010
            • 12

            #6
            Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

            Originally posted by allan
            Just double checking. You feed direction is from top to bottom as per you photo?
            Does not make sense that it will loose drive for only a single rotation.

            Can for sure be the dev drive.
            Also look at transfer and dev bias contacts.
            Don't think it could be the print head, there seems to be a bit of an image in the void but possible.

            What a pain to recreate. Ever 50 pages on that is not something you can wait for or do on site.
            A bit blind.
            Yes, the void is across the image. And yes kind of tough to replicate / observe, i was problem is very intermittent (once in 50 D prints), and the blank area is ~ 76mm (circumference of the dv roller) any thoughts on possible cause of intermittent loss of dv drive?
            Thanks for your hoping someone has seen a similar issue in a Plot Wave.
            thanks for your help.

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            • brianSTX
              Technician
              • Jan 2010
              • 12

              #7
              Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

              Originally posted by blackcat4866
              Sorry, I haven't the faintest idea what this Oce' looks like. My thoughts are based on laser print engine theory. =^..^=
              It's an awesome beast, but just an overgrown laser printer, thanks for your input, it was helpful.
              pw 3000 IMG_3865.jpg

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

                5,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 5445

                #8
                Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Sorry, I haven't the faintest idea what this Oce' looks like. My thoughts are based on laser print engine theory. =^..^=

                Yea standard laser printer theory applies here.


                Did the problem start after the part replacement?
                Whatever

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                • brianSTX
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

                  Originally posted by allan
                  Yea standard laser printer theory applies here.


                  Did the problem start after the part replacement?
                  Developer change and charge assembly where recently (1 month) changed. I don't think they're related, but ...
                  I've retraced those steps. I don't see any defects.

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                  • brianSTX
                    Technician
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

                    I am attaching another sample of the image void, which shows carrier/developer transfer on the lead edge of the 3" void, and over toning on the trail edge of the void, not visible on the first sample picture.
                    Oce image void 2 (2).jpg
                    since my last post I have replaced transfer and separation wires, and have not been able to reproduce the fault.
                    Any input on the possible cause is welcome,
                    Brian

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                    • Phil B.
                      Field Supervisor

                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 22808

                      #11
                      Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

                      Originally posted by brianSTX
                      Yes, the void is across the image. And yes kind of tough to replicate / observe, i was problem is very intermittent (once in 50 D prints), and the blank area is ~ 76mm (circumference of the dv roller) any thoughts on possible cause of intermittent loss of dv drive?
                      Thanks for your hoping someone has seen a similar issue in a Plot Wave.
                      thanks for your help.
                      I've had ricohs where the bushing in the PCU got to be wobbly.. kinda the same CQ issue you are having

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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

                        Site Contributor
                        25,000+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 35067

                        #12
                        Re: Oce pw365 intermittent 3" void cross feed

                        Originally posted by brianSTX
                        I am attaching another sample of the image void, which shows carrier/developer transfer on the lead edge of the 3" void, and over toning on the trail edge of the void, not visible on the first sample picture.
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]47300[/ATTACH]
                        since my last post I have replaced transfer and separation wires, and have not been able to reproduce the fault.
                        Any input on the possible cause is welcome,
                        Brian
                        Not knowing that particular machine all I can say is it looks very much like a transfer void, i.e. momentary loss of transfer current. I have also seen it from a bad drum ground.

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