Open-source drivers

[mikrev]

Re: Open-source drivers

No but we do have those of us who penalize people who disrespect those who;

1. Are Contributors
2. Have been here considerably longer
3. Have considerably more posts
4. Have much higher Rep Power

Oh wow you just lost your 1 point of Rep Power that you get automatically for joining and acquired 4 Red Cards



Lets see, started working in the industry in 1980, been a member here for 5+ years and has 290 posts. I would say he has experience with multiple manufactures.

You need an attitude adjustment or you are not going to get much help here.

Just close the account then.

[mikrev]

Re: Open-source drivers

The transmission of that data has got nothing to do with your print drivers...
That data will be collected on the machine itself. Manufactures are not looking at sensitive data or rather not supposed to anyway..


Who said there is nothing like a bad question. Why does this thread exist?

Mmm Huawei and Hikvision should definitely not make printers and time soon. Xerox back in the day had a camera strapped to the machine inside...

It could seem a problem that all the source code of firmware associated with a printer purchase is closed because in practice there is a disconnect between what tech-companies say they do, and what they do in practice. Tech companies have been caught red-handed abusing the data of users so many times that I couldn't count it. Perhaps a canonical example is that IBM worked with the nazis to use pre-transistor technology to sort personal information of minorities (like jews, political opponents and people with preexisting conditions) to have them culled 70 years ago. Of course, the internet will tell you it is a lie, in the same way they tell you the vaccine is safe and effective. So some work on your part is required to find whether IBM really did that. But think about it, to some observers it would seem an obvious advantage to the end user if the code could be audited. The printing experience would be just the same for people that don't care about the topic. And the manufacturers would do this, wouldn't they, if there wasn't a disadvantage for the manufacturer?


It is instructive to think about the latter perhaps. What disadvantage could it be for the manufacturer to let the source be open. Because if it costs the manufacturer a whole lot in some way, then they might be hesitant to do so. Of course, I will not tell you what to think of any of this, but it might provide you a clue as to what might be the causes that all the source is closed. And if you have the appropriate precondition, it could perhaps motivate the subject of the thread so you don't end up in a UN Smart City by 2030 and own nothing to be happy. Unless there actually exist some open source firmware, perhaps it is best for an admin to just close the thread. To me, it looks like the observations that: (a) printers like to send data to the manufacturer and (b) the user doesn't really have a way to audit what gets sent over, has caused negative feelings for some readers. So it is best to shut the thread down so we can all have pleasant emotions inside. Personally, I would agree with this because I am looking for open source firmware, and not an argument.

[mikrev]

Re: Open-source drivers

To answer your question, mikrev, yes I do.

To set up a print driver RAW is to set it up totally manually in a windows system. That means set up the port manually, usually a TCP/IP port. Then usually browse out to the print driver .INF file or sometime .PPD file. Then tie it all up and test the print driver and make sure it works. You do have to have the manufactures driver to do this. But installing a print driver RAW or manually steps around the manufactures built in BS that sends reports.

At least in my experience.

I hope this helps.

When the print manager (of each operating system) interacts with the driver, what are the access permissions granted to it? I assume it is os-specific

[slimslob]

Re: Open-source drivers

When the print manager (of each operating system) interacts with the driver, what are the access permissions granted to it? I assume it is os-specific

Sounds like you are wanting to use a pint driver to hack a system.

[Samanator]

Re: Open-source drivers

After reading mikrev comments after many tried to help him, I thought to myself, gee, what an a-hole. His completely condescending comments mix in with a good portion of tin-foil hat paranoia (to me) is a bit off the charts. I mean, if he truly wants a printer that wont send info back to the manufacture, go get a movable type press.

But now that I have had time to think about it, I just feel sorry for the guy. What a world he chooses to live in.

We should leave this post up as a reminder of how not to be.

That is what I think. Now I'm gonna leave this string alone.

[slimslob]

Re: Open-source drivers

After reading mikrev comments after many tried to help him, I thought to myself, gee, what an a-hole. His completely condescending comments mix in with a good portion of tin-foil hat paranoia (to me) is a bit off the charts. I mean, if he truly wants a printer that wont send info back to the manufacture, go get a movable type press.

But now that I have had time to think about it, I just feel sorry for the guy. What a world he chooses to live in.

We should leave this post up as a reminder of how not to be.

That is what I think. Now I'm gonna leave this string alone.

Hell if he is concerned about ET phone home, just don't connect it to anything connected to the internet or a phone line.

[tsbservice]

Re: Open-source drivers

After reading mikrev comments after many tried to help him, I thought to myself, gee, what an a-hole. His completely condescending comments mix in with a good portion of tin-foil hat paranoia (to me) is a bit off the charts. I mean, if he truly wants a printer that wont send info back to the manufacture, go get a movable type press.

But now that I have had time to think about it, I just feel sorry for the guy. What a world he chooses to live in.

We should leave this post up as a reminder of how not to be

That is what I think. Now I'm gonna leave this string alone.

And you think right 👍

[ethanklein]

Re: Open-source drivers

If you install the printer driver in RAW mode, it won't notify anyone about the process or its status.

[dalewb74]

Re: Open-source drivers

And if you select no, does it still send some information? is it possible to use it without giving it any connectivity to the internet? My HP printer refuses to work after a while if I take internet away from it.

whats the point of having the option to select no if it's still gonna send info? the info it does send, when it is sent is only giving an idea of the usage of the machine. if it were actually giving personal data, how long do you think they would remain in business?