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  • fshead
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    • Jan 2009
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    Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

    hi
    I have never seen a c830dn printer but saw that you can make the fuser unit work in a mpc3002.
    Has anybody done that and how about drums,dev units ITB unit?
    I only asking because i might have a lead on some cheap printers that i would part out.
    thanks
  • copier tech
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    #2
    Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

    Yes this is correct, you can use the fuser unit & ITB from a SPC830 to fit in an MPC3002 etc.

    The fuser you just swap the jumper over from the old fuser & the ITB all you do is bend up a stopper in the machine above the ITB or swap over the top plastic covers & remove a green knob.

    Don't think the drums fit, but I use part D0292256 & modify this to fit as a block or colour
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    • cadillac2
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      • Oct 2015
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      #3
      Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

      You need to swap over the plate w/harness on the 830 fuser.

      just follow these directions : spc830dnfuserSWAP.pdf
      Last edited by cadillac2; 03-28-2018, 05:23 AM.

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      • copier tech
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        #4
        Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

        You can also fit the MPCxxx4 PCU into the Metis MPCxxx3, the 04 drums are around $120 cheaper.
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        • Imprestik
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          • Aug 2012
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          #5
          Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

          The SPC830DN drums are a direct replacement for any 02 series device

          All that's required is to pull off the TD sensor for every dev unit and stick it back on the maintenance kit PCDU and snip a little locating lug on the bottom of the front cover so you can push the PCDU into the device and off you go

          Been doing this for years now, you can even use these on the 01 series devices as well

          Forgot to also mention DO NOT USE THE fusing kit of the MPC3002, MPC3502 as the fusing belt with lamps are different and will give you SC553 errors

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          • fshead
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            #6
            Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

            thanks ALL
            >>Forgot to also mention DO NOT USE THE fusing kit of the MPC3002, MPC3502 as the fusing belt with lamps are different and will give you SC553 errors
            can you use the printer fuser unit in a mpc3002?..

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            • Phil B.
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              #7
              Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

              Originally posted by fshead
              hi
              I have never seen a c830dn printer but saw that you can make the fuser unit work in a mpc3002.
              Has anybody done that and how about drums,dev units ITB unit?
              I only asking because i might have a lead on some cheap printers that i would part out.
              thanks
              consumables aren't rated to last as long on the printer side compared to copier... why would you weant to install USED items in a machine?

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              • copier tech
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                #8
                Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                Originally posted by Phil B.
                consumables aren't rated to last as long on the printer side compared to copier... why would you weant to install USED items in a machine?
                In the UK we use the SPC fuser in the MPC no problem because we different voltage.
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • sandmanmac
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                  #9
                  Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                  Originally posted by Phil B.
                  consumables aren't rated to last as long on the printer side compared to copier... why would you weant to install USED items in a machine?
                  While I've not dealt specifically with this model either. I've done it many times myself with other printers, so I'd suggest that he, like I, can probably pick these units up (often with only a few thousand pages) for literally next to nothing. Part them out, and use those parts in a customer's machine, save them hundreds of dollars, and still make himself a decent buck while he's at it.
                  What's wrong with that?
                  We don't all work for dealers, and we don't all have access to genuine parts through 'normal channels' when we need them, so we have to find other ways, but my customers (at least) usually appreciate that I do.

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                  • fshead
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                    #10
                    Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                    And for me I only sell lease return machines and sometimes i will pull parts from a machine that
                    has other issues,ie blank screen,smashed panels or missing boards..
                    So having other options as buying brand new from local dealers inde guys like myself get
                    taken for a large markup..

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                    • sandmanmac
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                      #11
                      Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                      Originally posted by fshead
                      And for me I only sell lease return machines and sometimes i will pull parts from a machine that
                      has other issues,ie blank screen,smashed panels or missing boards..
                      Same here, Andy.
                      We're in a very similar situation

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                      • fshead
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                        #12
                        Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                        are you 120v or 220 v up north?
                        I was hoping these printers would be cheap but my 2nd option for machines
                        wants as much as a mpc3002 and i will have to wait till my main seller gets some in..
                        It make life easier when you have spares of everything to swap and move on...
                        What count are you seeing on the c3002 original k drums b4 seeing lines from charge roller?

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                        • sandmanmac
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                          #13
                          Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                          Originally posted by fshead
                          are you 120v or 220 v up north?
                          What count are you seeing on the c3002 original k drums b4 seeing lines from charge roller?
                          Haha...we have 120v in our igloos up here.
                          I only have a handful of these particular units out, and none are in very high volume locations, and they all had such low meters when I installed them, that I've yet to reach PM on any of them, so I can't really answer that.
                          I've seen no charge roller issues myself at least up to 200K +

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                          • Oze
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                            #14
                            Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                            Originally posted by copier tech
                            In the UK we use the SPC fuser in the MPC no problem because we different voltage.
                            Same in Australia.
                            We use the spc830dn fuser kit,b/w pcdu kit and the colour pcdu kit.
                            We also use the 830dn ITB assy in '02 machines AND '01 machines.
                            Most of our MPCxx02 machines are coming off contract this year so although the printer unit parts are lower yield we fit them in the machines about to end their contract.

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                            • fshead
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                              #15
                              Re: Using drums and fuser from a C830DN on a mpc3002

                              Originally posted by Oze
                              Same in Australia.
                              We use the spc830dn fuser kit,b/w pcdu kit and the colour pcdu kit.
                              We also use the 830dn ITB assy in '02 machines AND '01 machines.
                              Most of our MPCxx02 machines are coming off contract this year so although the printer unit parts are lower yield we fit them in the machines about to end their contract.
                              thats is where i am at,with trying to place a machine where costs rule supreme..
                              Most of my accounts are low meter and only the 60cpm b/w i service are doing 20kto 40k monthly..
                              I saw something stating do not empty the drum waste toner bottle..
                              Is there a reason for such?
                              looks like it has a tape seal after you pull the 4 screws off.

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