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  • Samanator
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    • Sep 2017
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    Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

    I've cleaned the mirrors and the underside of the glass but still copies on the glass or through the ADF seem very light. Prints are fine. How do I make copies darker?

    Thanks in advance.
  • sandmanmac
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    • Feb 2009
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    Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

    Replace/ Rebuild PCU.
    I know.... you'll say "but the copies are still clear, how can it be the PCU?". It's just a symptom of this unit as the PCU nears the end of it's life.
    It's been covered here countless times

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    • guitar9199
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      • Sep 2016
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      Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

      Have you tried cleaning the lamp as well? It might have some dust on it, causing the light images.

      ...it might also be getting old, and not putting out enough light. I believe the replacement part number is B238 1820.

      Good luck.

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      • copyaction
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        #4
        Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

        sp2907 on old machines default is 5 later machines are 6 or 7.
        Set them to 10 which is the max.
        It is a line width during copy in different modes.

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        • Samanator
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          • luca72
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            #6
            Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

            Originally posted by Samanator
            I've cleaned the mirrors and the underside of the glass but still copies on the glass or through the ADF seem very light. Prints are fine. How do I make copies darker?

            Thanks in advance.
            disassemble the laser box (you dismount anteriorly, it comes out) and clean well all the various glasses and lenses, especially the small mirrors of the polygon ...
            if it was dirty, cleaning it will make the prints darker ... good work
            "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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            • sandmanmac
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              Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

              images.jpgUntil you or your boss decides to take just a little bit of initiative I'm personally done.
              Even if you/he isn't willing to pay a few dollars for a service manual, I found a free download on my first attempt for this model.
              Start there.

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              • FrohnB
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                Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                Open the Right hand door, and lower the transfer roller away from the drum unit --> open front door --> remove PCDU (Drum unit, [squeeze the front and pull out]) --> Remove toner hopper assembly (green tab, hold down green tab to remove completely) --> Vacuum ALL loose toner you see (make sure to get the quenching lamp (green strip with little lights on it [may have to get yourself low and look up a little to see it, it resides just above the Drum unit] and also make sure that you get the laser unit glass --> if you're sure you got all the toner vacuumed, just below the toner hopper will be a tiny removable cover (one screw I think), this covers the laser glass, pull that laser glass out and clean the toner off of it (if you don't get all the toner vacuumed from the laser unit before pulling the glass, you may have to remove laser unit and clean the inside thoroughly) --> put all units back in and make a test copy.

                Let us know if this helps.
                Omertà

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                • slimslob
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                  #9
                  Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                  Since it is just through the slit glass, check the the doc feeder is properly aligned on the copier.

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                  • Gab
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                    • Aug 2015
                    • 633

                    #10
                    Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                    Get in sp mode (press yellow key 107 and keep pressed red key for n5 sec ) select copy and you are in sp mode.
                    Select 2 o05 and change value (i think that is the sp mode but not sure if it is not try with other sp 2 004, 2006 changeing values and testing you will find it)
                    i.e not use sp 2001 because if you turn off and on the old value comes back

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                    • sandmanmac
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                      Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                      Originally posted by Gab
                      Select 2 o05 and change value (i think that is the sp mode but not sure if it is not try with other sp 2 004, 2006 changeing values and testing you will find it)
                      i.e not use sp 2001 because if you turn off and on the old value comes back
                      If copies go light, 99% of the time it's because the machine needs PROPER service - not because default settings need to be screwed with!
                      Stick to screwing up your own machines and not advising others how to screw up theirs!

                      And how ironic that you of all people are telling someone how to fix light copies, when you must have a dozen posts on your own machines asking others how to do so, rather than following proper service procedures and advice from others!

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                      • Phil B.
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                        Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                        Originally posted by sandmanmac
                        If copies go light, 99% of the time it's because the machine needs PROPER service - not because default settings need to be screwed with!
                        Stick to screwing up your own machines and not advising others how to screw up theirs!
                        And how ironic that you of all people are telling someone how to fix light copies, when you must have a dozen posts on your own machines asking others how to do so, rather than following proper service procedures and advice from others!
                        PREACH IT BROTHER!

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                        • Brianneoe
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                          • May 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: Savin 9033 need to make copies darker

                          Originally posted by Samanator
                          I've cleaned the mirrors and the underside of the glass but still copies on the glass or through the ADF seem very light. Prints are fine. How do I make copies darker?

                          Thanks in advance.
                          Copies on this model always looked too weak to the end users regardless of what you do. Its just the way it was manufactured. I had my Ricoh DSM come out to one account and we played with all sorts of settings but could not get it bold enough.I even changed the CCD thinking that something was wrong with it but that was not the case. What we did do to get out the door was to adjust the "light\dark..auto"setting on the control panel and asked the customer what looked best to them using their originals. After they picked out the one they liked,we locked it down as default using the "program" setting on the machine.
                          The next machine they brought we made sure that the copy side of the machine worked as it should.

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