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  • stuuk
    Technician
    • May 2017
    • 13

    [Error Code] Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

    would like an opinion on this, had sc202, the screen is fine, so i think no issue with BICU, checked earthing contacts to duplex unit, all's well, PSU seems fine also, after removing and cleaning polygon motor, it came to ready and i copied about 10 pages and then the error occurred again, convinced its the motor, but i have a dilemma, the primary and secondary motor part numbers have been discontinued, which leaves me the option of ordering a very expensive laser unit, am i overlooking something of is it definitely the motor ?
  • Hadster
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    • Aug 2011
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    #2
    Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

    95% of the time I have had to replace BICU & polygon mirror motor at the same time. 95% of the time!

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    • anothertech
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      • Nov 2007
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      #3
      Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

      Did you try to order AX060396 Polygon Mirror Motor?

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
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        #4
        Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

        Have you even tried an internet search for Ricoh AX060396? Precision Roller has them in stock for $214.95.

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        • slimslob
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          Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

          Originally posted by anothertech
          Did you try to order AX060396 Polygon Mirror Motor?
          I have a feeling that he has the original parts catalog from before TSB 037R where the motor and the driver board were separate parts. Motor part number was AX060318.

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          • fshead
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            • Jan 2009
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            #6
            Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

            I have not mucked around on that model but if i was you i would see if you can part out a mp3300 or mpc3500 laser unit and see if motor can connect and fit.
            Many years ago i use to take apart panafax FAX laser motors and clean the pivot point where the laser spins on its axis..
            I would not 200 to 300 on a maybe that will fix it, if it was me..

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            • fshead
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              #7
              Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

              with a little google i found
              For Use In:


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              Ricoh Aficio MP C3000
              Ricoh Aficio MP C3000SPF
              Ricoh Aficio MP C4000
              Ricoh Aficio MP C4501
              Ricoh Aficio MP C5000
              Ricoh Aficio MP C550

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              • Oze
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                • Jul 2008
                • 1663

                #8
                Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                Wow..for a second there I thought this was a 10 year old thread.
                A quick look at Google would have lead you back here anyway....it's an old machine with a common fault.
                As Hadster said...make sure you swap out the BICU and the polygon mirror motor at the same time.

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                • anothertech
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                  Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                  Originally posted by Oze
                  Wow..for a second there I thought this was a 10 year old thread.
                  A quick look at Google would have lead you back here anyway....it's an old machine with a common fault.
                  As Hadster said...make sure you swap out the BICU and the polygon mirror motor at the same time.
                  I'd try the motor first, then the BICU if need be. If the BICU is fried it will not hurt the motor. Some BICU's can be fixed if you can find out what got fried. We used to call Hytec, sometimes they can tell you what component to check and replace.

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                  • slimslob
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                    • May 2013
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                    Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                    Originally posted by Oze
                    Wow..for a second there I thought this was a 10 year old thread.
                    A quick look at Google would have lead you back here anyway....it's an old machine with a common fault.
                    As Hadster said...make sure you swap out the BICU and the polygon mirror motor at the same time.
                    That was only if you had a blank display but could still see the SC 202 by shining a flashlight at an angle across the screen or by going into WIM. If the display is not blank, the BICU does not need to be replaced. If the display is blank and you do not replace both, it could blow the one you replaced.

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                    • Polo-022
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                      • Sep 2007
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                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                      Replace the polygon mirror motor as soon as possible,
                      what you see now it's the first stage.
                      It will fry BICU and you will see the black screen.

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                      • UNICORNico
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                        • May 2018
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                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                        As other colleagues have commented, I also recommend the same thing, do not miss too much time and disconnect the device completely from the electric power supply. To avoid on, by the user accidentally, they may aggravate this problem.
                        Replace the Polygonal Motor, before the BICU is damaged, but if the screen darkens (even a little), you must replace both parts simultaneously or the new part you place will be damaged.
                        We had this situation a few years ago with the "MP C5000-C4000" series, which we still had in maintenance.
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                        • mga
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                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                          Originally posted by stuuk
                          would like an opinion on this, had sc202, the screen is fine, so i think no issue with BICU, checked earthing contacts to duplex unit, all's well, PSU seems fine also, after removing and cleaning polygon motor, it came to ready and i copied about 10 pages and then the error occurred again, convinced its the motor, but i have a dilemma, the primary and secondary motor part numbers have been discontinued, which leaves me the option of ordering a very expensive laser unit, am i overlooking something of is it definitely the motor ?
                          It will be the motor cleaning no good just replace if you order AX06 0286 Polygon Mirror Motor if there's been any part number change the supplier should know
                          Regards Mark

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                          • stuuk
                            Technician
                            • May 2017
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                            Originally posted by anothertech
                            Did you try to order AX060396 Polygon Mirror Motor?
                            this was picked out as an alternative, so was ordered, but when i tried it it didn't fit, the connector was different, the ones in the manual ended 0318 and 0286.

                            I believe the issue with BICU takes out the back light of the LCD screen, I have had this on several occasions in the past, I don't have that here, the screen is fine and as i mentioned, it did come to ready and briefly work, before sc202 reoccurred

                            thanks for all your help, i think i can get my hands on second hand laser unit
                            Last edited by stuuk; 04-20-2020, 07:25 PM. Reason: wanted to add more

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                            • mga
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                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh MP C4500 SC202

                              Originally posted by stuuk
                              this was picked out as an alternative, but when i tried it it didn't fit, the connector was different, the ones in the manual ended 0318 and 0286
                              Tell the supplier they got it wrong the last parts manual is dated 2006 order the one ending 0286.
                              Also is it a ricoh dealer or ricoh directly that gave you the alternative. I check online tomorrow
                              Regards Mark

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