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  • kleankopy
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    #16
    Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

    It's in user tools then admin tools.
    Did one last week that was locked out.
    It's not in sp mode.
    .



    Originally posted by sandmanmac
    The reset you're referring to is in Factory SP mode (and it also has nothing to do with the HDD formatting), and the whole point for this thread is that SP mode is locked and not accessible, or we wouldn't even be having this conversation

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    • sandmanmac
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      #17
      Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

      Originally posted by kleankopy
      It's in user tools then admin tools.
      Did one last week that was locked out.
      It's not in sp mode.
      .
      Feel free to provide him/ us the location of that menu item at any time.
      Even if that were the case, the admin password has been changed (which is once again the reason for this thread), so how would you suggest he login to admin tools to access that menu?

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      • kleankopy
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        #18
        Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

        Ill check our notes tomorrow how we did it exactly. We had one last week that was all locked out with changed passwords and we got it all cleared.
        I am thinking now we were able to get into the special sp mode and was able to reset password and the had to do the memory clear to get rid of all the other stuff.

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        • slimslob
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          #19
          Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

          Originally posted by kleankopy
          Go to admin tools and on one of those pages their is a memory clear tab. Do the HDD and the machine will reset and after it reboots it will ask you to enter the new passwords which we always leave blank.
          It clears most everything but the engine settings which you should never do. This only works for 04 and newer.
          Here is what I posted a week ago.
          If you were able to use it, Ricoh would not meet the standard of security required by most government agencies in the world.
          I doubt if any government its changed its security requirements for devices on their networks. In fact, if anything they have increased them. It only takes one vulnerable device on a network to make the entire network vulnerable.

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          • sandmanmac
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            #20
            Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

            Originally posted by kleankopy
            I am thinking now we were able to get into the special sp mode and was able to reset passwords.
            That's exactly how you did it, which brings me back to my original point

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            • kleankopy
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              #21
              Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

              The one we did last week had a classified sticker on it would not let us in the sp mode and all passwords changed. But the special sp mode worked.
              Are you saying you can lock out the special sp mode also???




              Originally posted by sandmanmac
              That's exactly how you did it, which brings me back to my original point

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              • sandmanmac
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                #22
                Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                Originally posted by kleankopy
                The one we did last week had a classified sticker on it would not let us in the sp mode and all passwords changed. But the special sp mode worked.
                Are you saying you can lock out the special sp mode also???
                Honestly...Elmo has provided a pretty clear description.
                YES, when Service mode lock is on, and all passwords are changed, it would seem that you are basically screwed to put it bluntly.

                And you are correct, we've all run into machines that are locked down in a variety of ways including passwords changed, and FACTORY SP (Not Special SP as you refer to it) is how you're able to reset them.....along with also being a quick and easy way to wipe the address book

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                • slimslob
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                  #23
                  Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                  Originally posted by kleankopy
                  The one we did last week had a classified sticker on it would not let us in the sp mode and all passwords changed. But the special sp mode worked.
                  Are you saying you can lock out the special sp mode also???
                  With every model I have worked on, Service Mode Lock disabled access to all service modes with the exception of Touch Screen Calibration. It used to be taught during instructor lead training.

                  Restricting a Customer Engineer Operation
                  You can restrict the customer engineer's access to the service mode.
                  Service mode is used by a customer engineer for inspection or repair. If you set "Service Mode Lock" to [On], service mode cannot be used unless the machine administrator logs on to the machine and cancels the service mode lock to allow a customer engineer to operate the machine for inspection and repair. This ensures that the inspection and repair are done under the supervision of the machine administrator.

                  1. Log in as the machine administrator from the control panel.
                  2. Press [System Settings].
                  3. Press [Administrator Tools].
                  4. Press [ Next] twice.
                  5. Press [Service Mode Lock].
                  6. Press [On], and then press [OK].
                  You will get a warning 'This machine cannot be restored by service after service mode is locked. Are you sure you want to continue?'
                  7. Press [Yes].

                  Remember, you have to be logged in as the "machine administrator" to even see the Service Mode Lock on some models.

                  8. Log out.

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                  • TonerMunkeh
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                    #24
                    Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                    Try this:

                    How to do a forced start up with no encryption key
                    If the encryption key back-up has been lost, follow the procedure below to do a forced start-up.
                    • The HDD will be formatted after the forced start-up.
                    • Encrypted data will be deleted.
                    • User settings will be cleared.
                    1. Prepare an SD card.
                    2. Create a directory named "restore_key" inside the root directory of the SD card. Then,
                    save the "nvram_key.txt" file using the following name:
                    /restore_key/nvram_key.txt
                    3. Create a text file and write "nvclear".
                    • Write this string at the head of the file.
                    • Use all lower-case letters.
                    • Do not use quotation marks or blank spaces.
                    Security Settings
                    473
                    • It is judged that a forced start has been selected when the content of "nvclear" is executed and
                    the machine shifts to the alternate system (forced start).
                    4. Confirm that a message is displayed on the LCD telling to insert the SD card that contains
                    the encryption key.
                    5. Turn off the main power.
                    6. Insert the SD card that contains the encryption key into SD card slot 2 (the lower slot).
                    7. Turn ON the main power.
                    The machine automatically clear the HDD encryption.
                    8. Turn OFF the main power when the machine has returned to normal status.

                    This should reset the admin and supervisor passwords allowing you to enter User Tools, switch off service mode lock and then do what you need to do.
                    Last edited by TonerMunkeh; 06-08-2021, 10:01 AM.
                    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                    Hit it.

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                    • skynetto
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                      #25
                      Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                      To the thread poster.
                      it is possible to read passwords thru eeprom reader dump.
                      Just NVRAM1 is needed.
                      If you can provide that file (256kb) maybe i can do something.

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                      • davel
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                        #26
                        Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                        Originally posted by skynetto
                        To the thread poster.
                        it is possible to read passwords thru eeprom reader dump.
                        Just NVRAM1 is needed.
                        If you can provide that file (256kb) maybe i can do something.

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                        • skynetto
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                          #27
                          Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                          Read what i wrote too maybe.
                          By EEPROM reader

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                          • slimslob
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                            #28
                            Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                            Originally posted by skynetto
                            Read what i wrote too maybe.
                            By EEPROM reader
                            Originally posted by skynetto
                            To the thread poster.
                            it is possible to read passwords thru eeprom reader dump.
                            Just NVRAM1 is needed.
                            If you can provide that file (256kb) maybe i can do something.
                            I agree with davel, READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. In the second post of the thread I posted
                            you then need to find an adapter for 8 pin NVRam devices and software that works with it. Be ready to spend somewhere between $800.00 and $3,000.00. If somehow you are able to get the hardware and software needed you then need to determine where the supervisor password is stored.
                            Now exactly how do you propose the original poster obtains that 256K data file?

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                            • skynetto
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                              #29
                              Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              I agree with davel, READ THE ENTIRE THREAD.[SIZE=4][SIZE=2] In the second post of the thread I posted Now exactly how do you propose the original poster obtains that 256K data file?


                              Haikou Xingong Electronic Co,Ltd

                              80$ Eeprom reader.

                              Just extract SPI Chip from the controller and choose FM25LV020 from the dropdown menu. Read.
                              Send me the 256kb bin file.


                              And please remember: in the past i've made a program to decrypt Ricoh passwords and gave to the mighty Paul.
                              So i may know what i'm talking about

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                              • copier tech
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                                #30
                                Re: MPC 5504 Ex Service Lock and Changed Passwords

                                We simply replace the NVRam with a new one when faced with this issue.



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