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  • chargeroller
    Technician
    • Oct 2024
    • 21

    #1

    mpc 2504ex

    I have a mpc 2504ex that the black cuts out or has a very light image. Only the black is affected. If you print a counter page maybe the first couple inches are washed out and the rest is ok. On a color test page and the colors are fine but black is gone or washed our. I tried replacing the pcu and ITB unit and neither took care of the problem. It always does it on the second side of a two sided copy. It will only do it every so often on a single side. Any thought before I dig into it? I am going back with firmware and Lasor unit today. My account says I am a newbie but I switched companies and created a new account.
  • luca72
    Field Supervisor

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2017
    • 1774

    #2
    Originally posted by chargeroller
    I have a mpc 2504ex that the black cuts out or has a very light image. Only the black is affected. If you print a counter page maybe the first couple inches are washed out and the rest is ok. On a color test page and the colors are fine but black is gone or washed our. I tried replacing the pcu and ITB unit and neither took care of the problem. It always does it on the second side of a two sided copy. It will only do it every so often on a single side. Any thought before I dig into it? I am going back with firmware and Lasor unit today. My account says I am a newbie but I switched companies and created a new account.
    it could be the developer unit internal broken maybe, but send us the "pm counter status" to have a complete picture of the consumables situation
    so in words, we are not magicians
    "I'll be back"

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    • chargeroller
      Technician
      • Oct 2024
      • 21

      #3
      its not the dv unit. I replaced the complete pcu ,dv unit and pcu. Its almost like its loosing voltage. After talking with the customer they said they had a power outage and it started after that. So I am going to go back with a few boards and firmware. I just wondered if someone had this problem before so maybe I could try their fix first before getting to involved with it.

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      • luca72
        Field Supervisor

        1,000+ Posts
        • Oct 2017
        • 1774

        #4
        Originally posted by chargeroller
        its not the dv unit. I replaced the complete pcu ,dv unit and pcu. Its almost like its loosing voltage. After talking with the customer they said they had a power outage and it started after that. So I am going to go back with a few boards and firmware. I just wondered if someone had this problem before so maybe I could try their fix first before getting to involved with it.
        Also bring the complete power supply box, on the 2004ex and 3004ex unlike all the others I have had a couple of them blow out, not with that problem though, but it also happened to me after a power failure, perhaps on that particular model they are a little weak.
        ***check anyway the presence of rear pcdu cover, someone might have forgotten it before you***
        Last edited by luca72; 10-02-2024, 03:16 PM.
        "I'll be back"

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        • Leoculus
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jul 2024
          • 62

          #5
          Originally posted by luca72

          ***check anyway the presence of rear pcdu cover, someone might have forgotten it before you***
          this! so easy to forget to swap this over. or the foil that contacts the shaft of the dev may have gotten bent and is not contacting the shaft properly

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          • chargeroller
            Technician
            • Oct 2024
            • 21

            #6
            The problem ended up being the black developer solenoid sticking. Ricoh has a video on this problem. The pad rots out and gets sticky. I took one off a Junker and problem solved.

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            • luca72
              Field Supervisor

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2017
              • 1774

              #7
              Originally posted by chargeroller
              The problem ended up being the black developer solenoid sticking. Ricoh has a video on this problem. The pad rots out and gets sticky. I took one off a Junker and problem solved.
              thanks for the feedback, interesting!...never happened this failure on those models, I have to remember it, you never know.
              this video what do you say, where did you find it?
              "I'll be back"

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              • chargeroller
                Technician
                • Oct 2024
                • 21

                #8
                here is the link to the video https://youtu.be/YsT3cL86mT8

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                • Larhal
                  Retired

                  Site Contributor
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                  500+ Posts
                  • May 2013
                  • 568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chargeroller
                  here is the link to the video https://youtu.be/YsT3cL86mT8
                  Thank You.
                  Larhal

                  Retired

                  If all else fails read the Service Manual!

                  If that fails, meet me at the pub and we will discuss it.

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                  • MIKON
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 186

                    #10
                    Black development solenoid is sticking

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                    • GIUBOSS
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1431

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chargeroller
                      The problem ended up being the black developer solenoid sticking. Ricoh has a video on this problem. The pad rots out and gets sticky. I took one off a Junker and problem solved.
                      It happened to me once, it would be enough to put a little talcum powder on the sponge or simply remove it, shorten the spring slightly, the problem hasn't recurred for months.

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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

                        Site Contributor
                        25,000+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 37477

                        #12
                        Originally posted by chargeroller
                        The problem ended up being the black developer solenoid sticking. Ricoh has a video on this problem. The pad rots out and gets sticky. I took one off a Junker and problem solved.
                        Often you can just remove the pad and it will work fine. Will get a bit of clicking noise when the solenoid energizes. That is why the pad is there, to reduce the noise.

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