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  • luca72
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    • Oct 2017
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    #1

    Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

    hi all, at the request of a customer i tried to set the mf to display the toner icon, but i couldn't find the sp, i wasted half an hour in the office, on the service manual, but i couldn't to find it even there, may it be that it is not available on this model?
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  • mikadonovan
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    • May 2008
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    #2
    Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

    Look at sp 5844-008. If it has a SOP, look in the widget menu.
    NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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    • luca72
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      #3
      Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

      Originally posted by mikadonovan
      Look at sp 5844-008. If it has a SOP, look in the widget menu.
      Thanks, but ,this have a Legacy Classic Op panel...anyway tomorrow i try to check the sp that you have suggest to me
      Last edited by luca72; 11-24-2021, 08:19 PM.
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      • copier tech
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        #4
        Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

        Originally posted by luca72
        hi all, at the request of a customer i tried to set the mf to display the toner icon, but i couldn't find the sp, i wasted half an hour in the office, on the service manual, but i couldn't to find it even there, may it be that it is not available on this model?

        SP 5061 displays the toner remaining icon on the screen.

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        • slimslob
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          #5
          Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

          Originally posted by copier tech
          SP 5061 displays the toner remaining icon on the screen.

          Unless it is in Factory SP mode, it does not exist with the B/W MP 3533.

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          • luca72
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            #6
            Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

            Originally posted by slimslob
            Unless it is in Factory SP mode, it does not exist with the B/W MP 3533.

            you say ssp? ... I have not tried, I was there for something else, and the customer made me this request, and I was in a hurry, I thought "I will look at the manual in the laboratory, and then I will do it on the phone" but usually I know where is it, like mp4002 and others, but I have checked carefully in the pdf manual, and I have not found it, strange that it is not there?
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            • sandmanmac
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              #7
              Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

              As far as I can tell, it doesn't exist on the xx53 series.
              I searched "toner remaining" in the SM and found nothing (related to the icon display). It pops right up with the MP4002/5002 (for example)

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              • anothertech
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                • Nov 2007
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                Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                8 801 Toner Remain *CTL [0~100/ 0 / 1]
                These SPs enable the display of the amount of toner remaining in steps of 10%.

                Note: In actuality, the controller is capable of detecting changes in steps of 1%. However, this SP relies the detection data from the Engine (system), which is limited to a detection resolution of 10% increments.
                8 801 1 K
                8 801 2 Y
                8 801 3 M
                8 801 4 C

                Affected models

                CTL generation Model name Product name Model code
                13S Zeus-C2 MP C401SP, MP C401SRSP D191,D193
                12A Met-C1abcde/yz MP C3003/3503/4503/5503/6003/2003/2503 D146/D147/D148/D149/D150/D176/D177
                Charis-C1 Office a/b
                Charis-C1 Pro a/b
                MP C6502/8002
                Pro C5100/5110
                D135/D136
                D137/D138
                Titan-P1(Ti-P1) SP C730DN M109
                Orval-C2 a/b/c MP 2553/3053/3353 D182/D183/D184
                12S Griffin-C1 MPC305SP,MPC305SPF D118,D117
                Kir-C4 abc
                Kir-C4L bc/yz
                MP 1301/1601/2001/2501
                MP 1813L/2013L2001L/2501L
                D158/D159/D170
                D160/161
                Stella-C5 MP 301SP/301SPF D127/D128
                11A Alex-C2 MP 4002/5002 D129/D130
                ATAP-C3 MP C3002/3502
                MP C4502/5502
                D111/D142
                D143/D144
                11S Orval-C1 a/b/c MP 2352/2852/3352 D120/D121/D122

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                • sandmanmac
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                  #9
                  Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                  Originally posted by anothertech
                  8 801 Toner Remain *CTL [0~100/ 0 / 1]
                  These SPs enable the display of the amount of toner remaining in steps of 10%.

                  I did see this in the manual, but understood it to be something that could only be viewed in SP mode.
                  In hindsight, this may be actually be what he's looking for.
                  I'll be interested to hear the results

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                  • slimslob
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                    #10
                    Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                    Originally posted by anothertech
                    8 801 Toner Remain *CTL [0~100/ 0 / 1]
                    These SPs enable the display of the amount of toner remaining in steps of 10%.

                    Note: In actuality, the controller is capable of detecting changes in steps of 1%. However, this SP relies the detection data from the Engine (system), which is limited to a detection resolution of 10% increments.
                    8 801 1 K
                    8 801 2 Y
                    8 801 3 M
                    8 801 4 C

                    Affected models

                    CTL generation Model name Product name Model code
                    13S Zeus-C2 MP C401SP, MP C401SRSP D191,D193
                    12A Met-C1abcde/yz MP C3003/3503/4503/5503/6003/2003/2503 D146/D147/D148/D149/D150/D176/D177
                    Charis-C1 Office a/b
                    Charis-C1 Pro a/b
                    MP C6502/8002
                    Pro C5100/5110
                    D135/D136
                    D137/D138
                    Titan-P1(Ti-P1) SP C730DN M109
                    Orval-C2 a/b/c MP 2553/3053/3353 D182/D183/D184
                    12S Griffin-C1 MPC305SP,MPC305SPF D118,D117
                    Kir-C4 abc
                    Kir-C4L bc/yz
                    MP 1301/1601/2001/2501
                    MP 1813L/2013L2001L/2501L
                    D158/D159/D170
                    D160/161
                    Stella-C5 MP 301SP/301SPF D127/D128
                    11A Alex-C2 MP 4002/5002 D129/D130
                    ATAP-C3 MP C3002/3502
                    MP C4502/5502
                    D111/D142
                    D143/D144
                    11S Orval-C1 a/b/c MP 2352/2852/3352 D120/D121/D122
                    OI see the XX52 listed but not the XX53.

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                    • slimslob
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                      #11
                      Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                      I checked the service manual. SP 8801 displays the toner remaining when you are in SP mode and go to that SP. It does not allow displaying on the panel during normal operation for the end user.

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                      • anothertech
                        Service Manager

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                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1760

                        #12
                        Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        I checked the service manual. SP 8801 displays the toner remaining when you are in SP mode and go to that SP. It does not allow displaying on the panel during normal operation for the end user.
                        Ok, I didn't know what it did but I thought I'd post it hoping it might help.

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                        • luca72
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                          • Oct 2017
                          • 1747

                          #13
                          Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          SP 5061 displays the toner remaining icon on the screen.


                          ciao, unfortunately, I don't have a 3353 here in the laboratory, but I searched the service manual sp5061, on 3353 there isn't
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                          • luca72
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                            • 1747

                            #14
                            Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                            Originally posted by anothertech
                            8 801 Toner Remain *CTL [0~100/ 0 / 1]
                            These SPs enable the display of the amount of toner remaining in steps of 10%.

                            Note: In actuality, the controller is capable of detecting changes in steps of 1%. However, this SP relies the detection data from the Engine (system), which is limited to a detection resolution of 10% increments.
                            8 801 1 K
                            8 801 2 Y
                            8 801 3 M
                            8 801 4 C

                            Affected models

                            CTL generation Model name Product name Model code
                            13S Zeus-C2 MP C401SP, MP C401SRSP D191,D193
                            12A Met-C1abcde/yz MP C3003/3503/4503/5503/6003/2003/2503 D146/D147/D148/D149/D150/D176/D177
                            Charis-C1 Office a/b
                            Charis-C1 Pro a/b
                            MP C6502/8002
                            Pro C5100/5110
                            D135/D136
                            D137/D138
                            Titan-P1(Ti-P1) SP C730DN M109
                            Orval-C2 a/b/c MP 2553/3053/3353 D182/D183/D184
                            12S Griffin-C1 MPC305SP,MPC305SPF D118,D117
                            Kir-C4 abc
                            Kir-C4L bc/yz
                            MP 1301/1601/2001/2501
                            MP 1813L/2013L2001L/2501L
                            D158/D159/D170
                            D160/161
                            Stella-C5 MP 301SP/301SPF D127/D128
                            11A Alex-C2 MP 4002/5002 D129/D130
                            ATAP-C3 MP C3002/3502
                            MP C4502/5502
                            D111/D142
                            D143/D144
                            11S Orval-C1 a/b/c MP 2352/2852/3352 D120/D121/D122
                            thanks, from the description, it would seem this, now I also screw it on the manual ... who knows why they put it up there? ... then I'll give you the feedback!


                            8801
                            [Toner Remain]
                            These SPs display the percent of toner remaining for each color. This SP allows the
                            user to check the toner supply at any time.
                            Note: This precise method of measuring remaining toner supply (1% steps) is better
                            than other machines in the market that can only measure in increments of 10 (10%
                            steps).
                            8-801-001 K C* [0 to 100 / 0 / 1% /step]
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                            • luca72
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                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 1747

                              #15
                              Re: Mp 3353: Toner icon dislay, missing sp(?)

                              Originally posted by anothertech
                              8 801 Toner Remain *CTL [0~100/ 0 / 1]
                              These SPs enable the display of the amount of toner remaining in steps of 10%.

                              Note: In actuality, the controller is capable of detecting changes in steps of 1%. However, this SP relies the detection data from the Engine (system), which is limited to a detection resolution of 10% increments.
                              8 801 1 K
                              8 801 2 Y
                              8 801 3 M
                              8 801 4 C

                              Affected models

                              CTL generation Model name Product name Model code
                              13S Zeus-C2 MP C401SP, MP C401SRSP D191,D193
                              12A Met-C1abcde/yz MP C3003/3503/4503/5503/6003/2003/2503 D146/D147/D148/D149/D150/D176/D177
                              Charis-C1 Office a/b
                              Charis-C1 Pro a/b
                              MP C6502/8002
                              Pro C5100/5110
                              D135/D136
                              D137/D138
                              Titan-P1(Ti-P1) SP C730DN M109
                              Orval-C2 a/b/c MP 2553/3053/3353 D182/D183/D184
                              12S Griffin-C1 MPC305SP,MPC305SPF D118,D117
                              Kir-C4 abc
                              Kir-C4L bc/yz
                              MP 1301/1601/2001/2501
                              MP 1813L/2013L2001L/2501L
                              D158/D159/D170
                              D160/161
                              Stella-C5 MP 301SP/301SPF D127/D128
                              11A Alex-C2 MP 4002/5002 D129/D130
                              ATAP-C3 MP C3002/3502
                              MP C4502/5502
                              D111/D142
                              D143/D144
                              11S Orval-C1 a/b/c MP 2352/2852/3352 D120/D121/D122
                              I tried on the phone with the customer, but unfortunately, it would seem that the set value (100%) in this case, cannot be changed, strange, because from the description it seems the right one? I also tried here, on an mpc6003, and the value cannot be changed, maybe I'm missing something?
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