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  • Doug James
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    [Dead] Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

    i'm about to run out of reset fuses. I will reset #2 the message say complete. I will turn machine off then on and very quickly the code will pop up SC 544. This machine is kicken my butt for sure. Thanks for any help....
  • slimslob
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    Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

    What is the model? What have you done to repair the problem that caused the initial SC544. If is has not been properly repaired, the code will return.

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    • sandmanmac
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      Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

      Agree with Tim...What Model and what have you done?

      If we're talking about a Cxx02/ Cxx03, etc., type machine, I don't bother with fuses, and use this jig instead (although I've installed a push switch on the end to release, instead of just crossing the wires). (Props to whoever posted this here years ago, including the push switch idea from another member!!)
      SC544_554_564_574 Reset Procedure.pdf

      I've also made the same for the smaller colour machine (C306/307, etc.) you just use a different connector

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      • Doug James
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        Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

        I can't believe I forgot to put the model. Thanks for asking MP C4502. The new fix film came with busted heat lamp. I took the one out of a used one and used it. Thought I put itr back together right. Been having a tough time with this machine... Thanks again !!!

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        • MIKON
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          Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

          Try SP3902-14

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          • slimslob
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            Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

            Originally posted by MIKON
            Try SP3902-14
            That is for resetting the PM counter, not the service code.

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            • slimslob
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              Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

              Originally posted by Doug James
              I can't believe I forgot to put the model. Thanks for asking MP C4502.
              According to the service manual, you do not need to use a fuse to reset a Type A service code. You do have to cycle main power before going into SP mode then run SP 5810.1.

              The new fix film came with busted heat lamp. I took the one out of a used one and used it. Thought I put itr back together right. Been having a tough time with this machine... Thanks again !!!
              I had something similar once. A junior tech didn't know that the parts catalog he used had parts sections of all regions of the world and not just North America. Consequently he ordered the 200 volt unit for Japan and Europe. Since I was the only one in the shop when the part came in I got sent to the customer to replace it. Installed the new sleeve and it threw an under heat error. I had to change the heat lamps as the one being replaced was due to a torn film. Tear down was easy. Reassemble was another matter entirely.

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              • slimslob
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                Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                Forgot to mention, since the SC is for overheating, check the connection and condition of the thermistors. One could be either bad, disconnected or have a pinched lead.

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                • MIKON
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                  Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                  Important: The fusing unit cannot be used because an abnormal high
                  temperature was detected.
                  After this SC occurs, the counter reset of the fusing unit should be done
                  manually using SP3-902-014 because the counter reset is not done
                  automatically

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                    Originally posted by MIKON
                    After this SC occurs, the counter reset of the fusing unit should be done
                    manually using SP3-902-014 because the counter reset is not done
                    automatically
                    But that is only for new fusing unit set. It will clear the fusing unit PM due message. That was added to the service manual because clearing the fusing unit PM counter with this model does not clear the message. The original service manual did not have it. Also it does not clear the PM counter. SP 7624-015 must be run to clear that.

                    It does not clear the service code.

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                    • luca72
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                      Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                      Originally posted by Doug James
                      i'm about to run out of reset fuses. I will reset #2 the message say complete. I will turn machine off then on and very quickly the code will pop up SC 544. This machine is kicken my butt for sure. Thanks for any help....
                      as the sleeve havent sensors, I have either broken the liner sleeve, or is electrically interrupted (which cannot create overheating)
                      I would focus on the sensors, clean / replace the thermistors, in particular the sensors with the yellow windows, with diluent and cotton swabs, they gave me a problem a few days ago, and I solved this, instead for the fuses, do as they suggested to you, or as I always did in that discussion



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                      "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                        Originally posted by luca72
                        as the sleeve havent sensors, I have either broken the liner sleeve, or is electrically interrupted (which cannot create overheating)
                        I would focus on the sensors, clean / replace the thermistors, in particular the sensors with the yellow windows, with diluent and cotton swabs, they gave me a problem a few days ago, and I solved this, instead for the fuses, do as they suggested to you, or as I always did in that discussion



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                        He has said that this is a MP C4502. Only has contact thermistors. When removing and reinstalling the bottom cover of the fusing unit you have to follow the service manual exactly or risk damaging the thermistor leads.

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                        • MIGUELMARCHENA
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                          Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                          I hope I have understood your problem well.

                          if you install the lamps of a mpc 3502, it will give you this error sc 544.

                          the connectors for mpc4502 and mpc 5502 are yellow, all three, while for mpc 3002 and 3502 all three are white.

                          maybe that's it.

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                          • Doug James
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                            Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                            Originally posted by MIGUELMARCHENA
                            I hope I have understood your problem well.

                            if you install the lamps of a mpc 3502, it will give you this error sc 544.

                            the connectors for mpc4502 and mpc 5502 are yellow, all three, while for mpc 3002 and 3502 all three are white.

                            maybe that's it.
                            Actually the connectors on both are yellow. Didn't know they were different though. Leaning to Thermistors. Hope that is it... THANKS !!!!

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                            • luca72
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                              Re: Ricoh SC 544 Used reset fuse, Code comes back

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              He has said that this is a MP C4502. Only has contact thermistors. When removing and reinstalling the bottom cover of the fusing unit you have to follow the service manual exactly or risk damaging the thermistor leads.
                              hi, I thought I dreamed it, or checked on the wrong manual, but I looked again, and there are those sensors, are the item 27 and 28.D143_D144_EU_V1.11_fuser section 1.pdf
                              "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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