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  • dave w
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    • Jun 2015
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    #1

    MPC 307 faulty test sheet

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    I think I have done about all I can do - im failing on this one



    Company bought machine ( as new ) on Colour = 300 & K = 200 - was told toner hopper was faulty which it was

    what had been done

    New K toner hopper & toner motor
    all firmware updated
    Manual Pro Con

    Vsg reg front center rear = 4.93
    TD sen Ini set result - 1111
    TD sensor clean
    changed TD sensor

    all parts listed below moved to another working machine and all was good, no visible issues on test sheet =

    PCU's
    ITB
    Fusing Unit
    Registration Roller
    Laser Unit



    Am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by dave w; 05-05-2022, 05:18 PM.
  • mikadonovan
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    • May 2008
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    #2
    Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

    I would say make sure the LD shields and ID sensors are clean first. Perform a forced toner supply on all colors. Run ACC. You also may have to reinitialize K developer after you achieve a good K solid from the forced toner supply.
    NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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    • GIUBOSS
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      • Jul 2013
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      #3
      Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

      Perform SP2-111, Forced Line Position Adj., All steps.

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      • dave w
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        Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

        Originally posted by mikadonovan
        I would say make sure the LD shields and ID sensors are clean first. Perform a forced toner supply on all colors. Run ACC. You also may have to reinitialize K developer after you achieve a good K solid from the forced toner supply.
        BIG thanks

        Will try that on Monday as I dont work Fridays.

        Dave w

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        • dave w
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          #5
          Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

          Originally posted by GIUBOSS
          Perform SP2-111, Forced Line Position Adj., All steps.
          Big Thanks

          I did run d after new laser unit was changed, will revisit that option

          Im thinking thats its not a hardware issue and just something i dont know about or missed

          Thanks agin
          Dave

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          • Mark Bbb
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            #6
            Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

            If client doesn't complain, let it be

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            • dave w
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              #7
              Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

              Originally posted by Mark Bbb
              If client doesn't complain, let it be
              Its going into a Nursery where they print photos off for the perants.
              you can bet your bottom dollar - they will notice.

              It shows up at the top of the page if text is presant, and the client is in London which is miles away from where we are on the coast.
              Dont fancy a revist

              Dave w

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              • mga
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                • Dec 2010
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                #8
                Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                Originally posted by dave w
                [ATTACH=CONFIG]53194[/ATTACH]



                I think I have done about all I can do - im failing on this one



                Company bought machine ( as new ) on Colour = 300 & K = 200 - was told toner hopper was faulty which it was

                what had been done

                New K toner hopper & toner motor
                all firmware updated
                Manual Pro Con

                Vsg reg front center rear = 4.93
                TD sen Ini set result - 1111
                TD sensor clean
                changed TD sensor

                all parts listed below moved to another working machine and all was good, no visible issues on test sheet =

                PCU's
                ITB
                Fusing Unit
                Registration Roller
                Laser Unit



                Am I missing something?

                Thanks in advance
                Hi dave one of the problems you have when you use pcdu's from another machine they don't set up unless you run manually also toner hopper problems always give you faulty add toner sign I would check the pm life's. Do forced line adjustment in correct order. Also if you require I could always have a look for you i'am based in London. Also if you did do toner hopper you would of removed laser ribbon cables hopefully they not damaged
                Regards Mark

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                • dave w
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                  Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                  Originally posted by mga
                  Hi dave one of the problems you have when you use pcdu's from another machine they don't set up unless you run manually also toner hopper problems always give you faulty add toner sign I would check the pm life's. Do forced line adjustment in correct order. Also if you require I could always have a look for you i'am based in London. Also if you did do toner hopper you would of removed laser ribbon cables hopefully they not damaged
                  Thanks for advice mga

                  Machine is in the workshop getting ready for install, possible next week ( tuesday 09/05/2022 ) so pressure is on!

                  will keep you in mind

                  Thanks

                  Dave w
                  Last edited by dave w; 05-09-2022, 12:49 PM.

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                  • luca72
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                    • Oct 2017
                    • 1779

                    #10
                    Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                    Originally posted by dave w
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]53194[/ATTACH]



                    I think I have done about all I can do - im failing on this one



                    Company bought machine ( as new ) on Colour = 300 & K = 200 - was told toner hopper was faulty which it was

                    what had been done

                    New K toner hopper & toner motor
                    all firmware updated
                    Manual Pro Con

                    Vsg reg front center rear = 4.93
                    TD sen Ini set result - 1111
                    TD sensor clean
                    changed TD sensor

                    all parts listed below moved to another working machine and all was good, no visible issues on test sheet =

                    PCU's
                    ITB
                    Fusing Unit
                    Registration Roller
                    Laser Unit



                    Am I missing something?

                    Thanks in advance
                    changed all that stuff, and don't go?
                    try while printing to keep the door closed with one hand, pushing hard ... and see what happens, maybe it doesn't close well (?)
                    "I'll be back"

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                    • dave w
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                      #11
                      Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                      Originally posted by luca72
                      changed all that stuff, and don't go?
                      try while printing to keep the door closed with one hand, pushing hard ... and see what happens, maybe it doesn't close well (?)
                      Good call - BUT still the same.

                      Thanks anyway

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                      • dave w
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                        #12
                        Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                        Thanks to all

                        Went through everything you guys advised - the Test chart is better and doent show any symptoms when printing text.

                        Thanks again

                        Dave

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                        • Vegas Biker
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                          • Sep 2020
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                          Hello!

                          This post might be too little too late and if so I'm sorry...I don't get a chance to hop on here very often.

                          Question...the page you posted, was it printed short edge feed or long edge feed? If long edge feed, then your K PCDU is the problem. Developer could be clumping up and clogging up the brush. Fix action is to take a piece of plastic (about the thickness of an ID badge or credit card) and stick it in the gap between the drum and dev unit and swipe it back and forth to break up the developer.

                          I had this same issue with an IM C3500 on the K PCDU. I printed a checker pattern test page for all 4 PCDUs and it was only the black that had voids and faded prints. (much like the bottom corner you circled)

                          I did what I recommended above and it prints like brand new again.

                          Credit goes to a guy on youtube that I stumbled across researching the problem.....I forget his name though.

                          Cheers!

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                          • sandmanmac
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                            Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                            Originally posted by Vegas Biker
                            Hello!

                            This post might be too little too late and if so I'm sorry...I don't get a chance to hop on here very often.

                            Question...the page you posted, was it printed short edge feed or long edge feed? If long edge feed, then your K PCDU is the problem. Developer could be clumping up and clogging up the brush. Fix action is to take a piece of plastic (about the thickness of an ID badge or credit card) and stick it in the gap between the drum and dev unit and swipe it back and forth to break up the developer.

                            I had this same issue with an IM C3500 on the K PCDU. I printed a checker pattern test page for all 4 PCDUs and it was only the black that had voids and faded prints. (much like the bottom corner you circled)

                            I did what I recommended above and it prints like brand new again.

                            Credit goes to a guy on youtube that I stumbled across researching the problem.....I forget his name though.

                            Cheers!
                            The C307 is ONLY capable of printing SEF.
                            He clearly stated that basically ALL parts work perfectly in another machine.
                            The solution you provided sometimes helps if there is a distinct blank line on the image due to 'toner rocks', but that's not the case here at all (he circled BOTH corners)

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                            • dave w
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                              #15
                              Re: MPC 307 faulty test sheet

                              Thanks Vegas Biker

                              Yes the card slide trick, was shown that some years ago and works well when you can see a line on the mag roller.

                              Dave w

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