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  • digicor
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2008
    • 1152

    #16
    Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

    [QUOTE=Gift;2378444]It'll be great to know if this is going to fix digicor's issue, too.
    thats exactly what is happening!!! ill check the thermopiles , and yes im sorry the thermopiles are not in the fuser
    doh.... Thanks a million buddy,
    ,

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    • Gift
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2011
      • 2457

      #17
      Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

      Kudos goes to Zeldaman - don't forget to print some samples before cleaning to see how much it changes.

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      • kplow1986
        Technician
        • Nov 2013
        • 41

        #18
        Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

        u need modified exit roller and exit tray to fix this problem.. install tray heater also is the way to fix it

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        • copyboy99
          Technician
          • Jan 2020
          • 22

          #19
          Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

          Originally posted by digicor
          I HAVE 6 OF THESE MACHINES IN THE FIELD, ONLY TWO ARE CURLING TO PAPER, IVEE TRIED THE FUSER REPLACEMENT, PAPER SET THE PLAIN PAPER 1, THESE IS NO CHOICE FOR PLAIN PAPER TWO... LIKE MY MP C6004, IF THERE IS WHERE IS IT LOCATED?
          OR IS THERE ANOTHER SOLUTION?IS IT IN THE EXIT ROLLER ASSMBLY AFTER THE FUSER? LIKE THE COLOR MACHINES THESE ARE SWITCHED WITH FIN OR NO FIN, THESE BOTH HAVE INTERNAL FINS, THE ONES THAT DONT CURL DONT HAVE FINS
          tHANKS

          Could you check SP 3260-001, 002, 003 with built-in Humidity sensor on these device, this will give idea about how much is the Humidity near that device.
          Screenshot 2023-06-01 215155.jpgScreenshot 2023-06-01 215302.jpg

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          • luca72
            Field Supervisor

            1,000+ Posts
            • Oct 2017
            • 1711

            #20
            Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

            Originally posted by digicor
            FYI i did replace the fuser with a fuser from a machine that was not curling the paper, and the paper came out curled...
            this smell of wrong exit roller type, try to check the shape of the black plastic roller above the delivery tray, must be "bombed", like a beans, not straight!
            "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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            • Gift
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Mar 2011
              • 2457

              #21
              Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

              Hope the thread starter will give us some feedback / no response since 2 weeks.....
              I'm pretty curious about that thermopile cleaning effect.

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              • luca72
                Field Supervisor

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2017
                • 1711

                #22
                Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                Originally posted by Gift
                Hope the thread starter will give us some feedback / no response since 2 weeks.....
                I'm pretty curious about that thermopile cleaning effect.
                I must say that by cleaning the thermopile, I have never solved half problem, in any case since strange things can be seen! .... it could in some cases have some effect


                p.s. why did you change your avatar?..it was so cute, the one with the dog and cat looking at you...LOL
                "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                • digicor
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1152

                  #23
                  Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                  thermopile was clean, i adjusted the temp up 10 degrees in all phases, and also set the fuser to plain paper 1 , its not completely flat, but its not Curling like it was,this machine replaced a KMBHC364, no curling what so ever,
                  so , the paper is the same as well, so the client is satisfied, "no jamming on big jobs" . all is good now.
                  Ricoh's seem to have little annoying quirks, at times, I just delivered a c6004ex, got a 672-00... machine would not turn off, had to un plug it, restart it, then turn it off again, then turn it on again. The 672 is screen not communicating with control board .... it only has 56k total impressions... anyway, i re calibrated the screen, (reset-806-182-#-#-C) service icon at the top left, touch that, scroll down touch screen, scroll down touch calibrate, then you have to hit the side button under the cover on the left side of the screen frame, f1-or f3 if it didn't work, mine did, exit out and whallah! so far so good, also the timer was set t0 1min before sleeping,, no good, set to 60min, all good today.

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                  • dalewb74
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 1125

                    #24
                    Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                    i agree with slim about the paper tray heater. but also where are the reams of paper stored? worst case if they order a full box at a time. leave the lid on the box to help with any possible moisture in the environment.

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                    • apump
                      Trusted Tech

                      100+ Posts
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 160

                      #25
                      Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                      SP1113 set to 1 (no curl) this will make a difference.

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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

                        Site Contributor
                        25,000+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 37068

                        #26
                        Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                        Originally posted by apump
                        SP1113 set to 1 (no curl) this will make a difference.
                        I noticed that SP 1113 is listed as DFU which indicates"Design/Factory Use only: Do not touch these SP modes in the field."

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                        • apump
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 160

                          #27
                          Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                          you can change this its only for paper curl. all of my 54/55 series machines are set this way and i have been doing the im series also. i have been doing this since they have been introduced. you can set this to no curl. its not going to hurt anything.

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                          • luca72
                            Field Supervisor

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 1711

                            #28
                            Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                            Originally posted by apump
                            you can change this its only for paper curl. all of my 54/55 series machines are set this way and i have been doing the im series also. i have been doing this since they have been introduced. you can set this to no curl. its not going to hurt anything.
                            in my case, a couple of years ago, I had tried to activate it, for test....then I discovered that they were the bad exit rollers, (the mf had the finisher before) and they hadn't changed them, after fixing the problem with the right rollers, I deactivated the function in a Henry ford style perspective "the less things there are on a car, the less chance it has of breaking"
                            "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                            • Matt Sr
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2023
                              • 4

                              #29
                              Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                              Did you try a fresh unopened ream of paper?

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                              • auburntechnology
                                Technician
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 20

                                #30
                                Re: mp 4054/5055 CURLING PAPER

                                any body have the part number for the original rollers ? we removed an internal finisher

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