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  • s10
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2023
    • 6

    #1

    MP-C305 vertical faint lines

    I have inherited a Ricoh C305 for very cheap as the printer had issues, I originally got it for the scanner but I would now like to use the printer.
    The prints all have faint vertical lines on black and cyan only so I assumed a dirty laser.
    PXL_20230713_203142301.jpg
    I have cleaned the laser glass to no effect, I then swapped the Black/Cyan laser unit with the Magenta/Yellow laser unit and it made no difference.
    Any idea what else to try?

    The printer has done about 120k pages and unfortunately I have no idea what maintenance the previous owner did.
  • luca72
    Field Supervisor

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2017
    • 1711

    #2
    Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

    Originally posted by s10
    I have inherited a Ricoh C305 for very cheap as the printer had issues, I originally got it for the scanner but I would now like to use the printer.
    The prints all have faint vertical lines on black and cyan only so I assumed a dirty laser.
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]58998[/ATTACH]
    I have cleaned the laser glass to no effect, I then swapped the Black/Cyan laser unit with the Magenta/Yellow laser unit and it made no difference.
    Any idea what else to try?

    The printer has done about 120k pages and unfortunately I have no idea what maintenance the previous owner did.

    Seem that some pcdu's, need of replacement....the Mag. doctor Blade, its dirty in most point....anyway, you can try to extract them, and rotate the gear of the developer unit with your fingers, back and forth ...a lot of time, and look the effect...maybe your are lucky
    "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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    • davel
      Technician

      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2011
      • 1089

      #3

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      • slimslob
        Retired

        Site Contributor
        25,000+ Posts
        • May 2013
        • 37055

        #4
        Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

        Definitely appears to be developer voids or possibly dirt on the laser shield glasses.

        For developer voids follow luca's instructions or order some Doctor Blade cleaners A2949560 Paper Dust Cleaner - 5pcs/set
        Either way if the problem returns, may not be in the same place, then you have toner clumps and will need a new PCDU.

        Since apparently these entry level models do not include a shield glass cleaning wand you may have to remove the laser units to clean them.

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        • copier tech
          Field Supervisor

          5,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2014
          • 8121

          #5
          Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

          Originally posted by s10
          I have inherited a Ricoh C305 for very cheap as the printer had issues, I originally got it for the scanner but I would now like to use the printer.
          The prints all have faint vertical lines on black and cyan only so I assumed a dirty laser.
          [ATTACH=CONFIG]58998[/ATTACH]
          I have cleaned the laser glass to no effect, I then swapped the Black/Cyan laser unit with the Magenta/Yellow laser unit and it made no difference.
          Any idea what else to try?

          The printer has done about 120k pages and unfortunately I have no idea what maintenance the previous owner did.

          There was a bulletin on this. Before you replace all the PCDU try this method.

          MP C305 white void.pdf
          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

          ​

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          • Gift
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2011
            • 2457

            #6
            Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

            Yes, turning the dev roller forward and backwards helps sometimes - from my experience one might have to repeat this more around ~50 times to crush the cloggage via friction so the problem won't reappear soon (not guaranteed of course).
            Back in the MPC2500 days there was a bulletin to order the plastic gear from the DEV drive to improve the handling of that procedure, actually that gear still fits with all DEV units.

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            • RicohBoomer
              Technician
              • May 2022
              • 40

              #7
              Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

              Since the laser units are above the PCDUs in this machine as opposed to below them in most other models, then you are unlikely to get toner leakage onto the glass. Which is the usual cause for these types of lines.
              If the machine has done 120k pages and the PCDUs haven't been replaced yet then you are most certainly looking at a PCDU gone bad, the MP C305 PCDU don't last very long.
              They've likely been replaced once already but if they've been replaced a second time is more unclear.
              If the above mentioned RTB doesn't help you then replacing the Cyan PCDU is your next step.

              Since the lines in black(Except for one) match with the Cyan lines then my guess is that it isn't the Black PCDU that is broken, but that your test page's black field isn't actually black but some mixture with Cyan in it which is causing these lines.
              I'd swap Cyan first and see if that solves the issue before ordering a black PCDU as well.
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              • GIUBOSS
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2013
                • 1385

                #8
                Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                I often find lumps of toner or fluff in the developer even in not too old units, in rental mfp I was better off using a flour sifter lined with a women's stocking!!

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                • satins
                  Technician

                  Site Contributor
                  50+ Posts
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 89

                  #9
                  Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                  Originally posted by s10
                  I have inherited a Ricoh C305 for very cheap as the printer had issues, I originally got it for the scanner but I would now like to use the printer.
                  The prints all have faint vertical lines on black and cyan only so I assumed a dirty laser.
                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]58998[/ATTACH]
                  I have cleaned the laser glass to no effect, I then swapped the Black/Cyan laser unit with the Magenta/Yellow laser unit and it made no difference.
                  Any idea what else to try?

                  The printer has done about 120k pages and unfortunately I have no idea what maintenance the previous owner did.

                  It interesting that there is a continuity of horizontal white lines in cyan and black and a thick white band over the top.
                  I believe that I may be missing visibility of white lines in magenta and yellow due to light reflection.
                  If that is the case you might want to look in the ITBU before you go for the individual PCDU.
                  Even if you go for the PCDU, pls. ensure to check each colour testing before you order the replacement.
                  Thanks.

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                  • Gift
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2457

                    #10
                    Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                    That black is composed by C/M/Y/K instead of just K so the diagnostic towards cyan PCDU makes sense.

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                    • s10
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2023
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                      Thanks for all the useful tips, I have cleaned the laser glass and tried the steps in the bulletin and the lines have changed slightly so I will give it a go a few more times.

                      Unfortunately now I also have another error!
                      The paper tray 1 doesn't seem to detect paper anymore so I have to use the bypass tray.
                      The error is SC501-00.

                      When you insert the tray you can hear the lift motor and I have checked the motor turns, so I suspect a bad sensor is the cause?
                      Could this be caused by old toner as when I took it apart to remove the PCDU I found old toner falling out of pretty much every hole in the base of the machine...

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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

                        Site Contributor
                        25,000+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 37055

                        #12
                        Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                        I see a some have noticed a similar location of the lines in K and C. To me, that indicates a potential dust contamination inside the laser unit for Cyan and Black. There is a separate laser unit for Yellow and Magenta.

                        If the black was composite then instead of being white, the lines would be orange.

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                        • s10
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2023
                          • 6

                          #13
                          Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          I see a some have noticed a similar location of the lines in K and C. To me, that indicates a potential dust contamination inside the laser unit for Cyan and Black. There is a separate laser unit for Yellow and Magenta.

                          If the black was composite then instead of being white, the lines would be orange.
                          I have swapped the two laser units round and the problem persists so I am pretty sure it is not the laser.
                          Also under good light the lines do look a bit orange on the black section.

                          I am pretty sure it is the cyan PCDU.

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                          • Gift
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2457

                            #14
                            Re: MP-C305 vertical faint lines

                            I also see fromt he picture that the bright lines within black are "color-ish".

                            @Tray issue - check the back of the tray, perhaps the lever for the lift mechanism broke (assuming it's built like MPC306, 307..)

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                            • Zeldaman
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 946

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