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  • PressingPrintz
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    • Nov 2022
    • 74

    #1

    [Misc] C3002 whining noise

    Howdy guys,

    Working with a Ricoh C3002. When it concludes printing it makes a loud and long whining noise. It sounds like if you dragged your hand across a widow slowly.

    It only happens after printing has concluded.

    Has anybody encountered this?

    See video below.



    Thanks


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  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
    • 36796

    #2
    Re: C3002 whining noise

    You have a bushing running dry somewhere. From my history with that model, I would say in the exit transport. Heat rising from the IH coil causes them to dry out. If it goes too long the bushing will seize and cause a jam.

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    • PressingPrintz
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      • Nov 2022
      • 74

      #3
      Re: C3002 whining noise

      Originally posted by slimslob
      You have a bushing running dry somewhere. From my history with that model, I would say in the exit transport. Heat rising from the IH coil causes them to dry out. If it goes too long the bushing will seize and cause a jam.
      Thank you!

      What would you say is the best way to narrow it down?

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      • davel
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        • Oct 2011
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        #4
        Re: C3002 whining noise

        Originally posted by PressingPrintz
        Thank you!

        What would you say is the best way to narrow it down?
        Pull the exit unit out, easy enough if you are experienced on this old machine. The complete unit was available as a spare part.

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        • slimslob
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          #5
          Re: C3002 whining noise

          Originally posted by PressingPrintz
          Thank you!

          What would you say is the best way to narrow it down?
          You can run the fusing exit motor at various speeds with simulation SP 5804-31,32,33,35
          31 Fast
          32 Medium
          33 Slow
          35 Very Slow
          Listen to see if the noise is present and if it is whether it comes from the fusing area or the exit section.

          There is a section in the service manual on removing the exit unit Applying silicon oil to all the bushings should cure the problem.

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          • anothertech
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            • Nov 2007
            • 1756

            #6
            Re: C3002 whining noise

            Originally posted by slimslob
            You can run the fusing exit motor at various speeds with simulation SP 5804-31,32,33,35
            31 Fast
            32 Medium
            33 Slow
            35 Very Slow
            Listen to see if the noise is present and if it is whether it comes from the fusing area or the exit section.

            There is a section in the service manual on removing the exit unit Applying silicon oil to all the bushings should cure the problem.
            Yep, run the motors in I/O mode to narrow down.

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            • luca72
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              • Oct 2017
              • 1677

              #7
              Re: C3002 whining noise

              Originally posted by PressingPrintz
              Howdy guys,

              Working with a Ricoh C3002. When it concludes printing it makes a loud and long whining noise. It sounds like if you dragged your hand across a widow slowly.

              It only happens after printing has concluded.

              Has anybody encountered this?

              See video below.



              Thanks

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              I could be wrong, but to me it seems like some noisy pcu, some vibrating blade, try printing a few color pages, with full colour (nice full ones), or take them out, and put a bit of yellow toner on them with a brush over the drum cylinders , and rotate them by hand a little forward and a little backward.
              "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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              • PressingPrintz
                Technician

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                • Nov 2022
                • 74

                #8
                Does anybody have the procedures for applying silicone to the exit unit bushings? The service manual I have only explains how to remove the unit.

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                • slimslob
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                  #9
                  First thing is to remove the bushings and clean them and the shafts. If any shafts show excessive scoring, replace them. Reassemble and place a drop of silicon oil on each end of each shaft is ample but if you want to saturate the bushings, out them in a small metal container, cover them with silicon oil an heat them up. That opens the pores of the sintered bronze and allow it to absorb the oil.

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                  • dzewo
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 36

                    #10
                    Simmilar type of nosie can be generated by a worn out fusing unit (especially at low speeds right after a finished job) or as mentioned above by a PCU.

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                    • luca72
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                      • Oct 2017
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by dzewo
                      Simmilar type of nosie can be generated by a worn out fusing unit (especially at low speeds right after a finished job) or as mentioned above by a PCU.
                      +1
                      "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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