Ricoh 1060 paper feed jam!!

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  • ISISTEPHANE
    Technician
    • Mar 2008
    • 22

    #1

    Ricoh 1060 paper feed jam!!

  • iMind
    Vacuum Cleaning Expert

    1,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2008
    • 1116

    #2
    OK boy, Stephane you will have pull up your sleaves and get down on your knees and start by changing the clutches no the backside of the machine,tré dificil,
    im joking, i´ll start by cheking the clutches, clean clean clean...........
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    • Ollie1981
      Toner Monkey

      250+ Posts
      • Mar 2008
      • 418

      #3
      No clutches on the Martini, it's all motors.

      But still the same advice, remove all three feed stations and check that the Dev leak hasn't caused the gears on the rear of the feed stations to wear. If you're lucky then it'll only be the top feed station that's at fault. Dev might have got into the motor in which case you'll have to replace it.

      It's not that difficult, the feed stations come out quite easily if you take off the side panel of the machine, the waste toner bottle and the vertical feed "A" swing out door.

      I'd recommend replacing the development unit too. Fixing it may seem cheaper but if you don't stop the developer leak then this problem's gonna come back and haunt ya!!

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      • ISISTEPHANE
        Technician
        • Mar 2008
        • 22

        #4
        i would do if there were clutches...... but only step by step motor and gears at the paper feed unit level, clutches are in the 551 650 700 models i think
        thx for your idea

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        • Ollie1981
          Toner Monkey

          250+ Posts
          • Mar 2008
          • 418

          #5
          Just to add to what I've just posted.........

          Try swapping feed stations 1 and 3 (they're identical)

          Then see if the machine will feed from trays 1 & 2.

          If it only jams out of 3 after swapping them over then at least you've narrowed the problem down to a single feed station.

          The reason for doing this is I suspect that feed station 1 is the one at fault, but as all paper fed from the lower trays must go via feed station 1 on the vertical transport it will cause jams from all trays.

          Try that first and see what happens. If you only get jams from 3 after swapping them over then take out 1 and three and compare the "known good" station to the "known bad".

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          • ISISTEPHANE
            Technician
            • Mar 2008
            • 22

            #6
            i still have changed the motor for trying in the first paper feed unit but nothing more and for the dev replacing by new bushing on the dev unit, i have noticed that without the torquelimiter there was less pressure on the transport roller, no sound, no jam but just for one copy, more copies no separation...
            thx

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            • iMind
              Vacuum Cleaning Expert

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              • Mar 2008
              • 1116

              #7
              Originally posted by ISISTEPHANE
              i would do if there were clutches...... but only step by step motor and gears at the paper feed unit level, clutches are in the 551 650 700 models i think
              thx for your idea
              OK Stephane, sorry same as MP 6500, check door switch under the three block on the botton of the machine maybe stuck
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              • ISISTEPHANE
                Technician
                • Mar 2008
                • 22

                #8
                the three stations are the same, and the pb is on all of them, i swapped 1 with with the last survivor 3 to the death...very soon
                thx

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                • ISISTEPHANE
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 22

                  #9
                  that's an idea i will try

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                  • iMind
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1116

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ollie1981
                    Just to add to what I've just posted.........

                    Try swapping feed stations 1 and 3 (they're identical)

                    Then see if the machine will feed from trays 1 & 2.

                    If it only jams out of 3 after swapping them over then at least you've narrowed the problem down to a single feed station.

                    The reason for doing this is I suspect that feed station 1 is the one at fault, but as all paper fed from the lower trays must go via feed station 1 on the vertical transport it will cause jams from all trays.

                    Try that first and see what happens. If you only get jams from 3 after swapping them over then take out 1 and three and compare the "known good" station to the "known bad".
                    sigpicWe can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound

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                    • ISISTEPHANE
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 22

                      #11
                      And the LCT works well!!!

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                      • Ollie1981
                        Toner Monkey

                        250+ Posts
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 418

                        #12
                        Quite few techs from my company have had this problem, sometimes it only affects one feed station but sometimes all.

                        All respondees say the only solution is to replace all gears and bushings on the feed stations or the whole feed station. The dev acts as an abrasive and causes gears and bushings to wear abnormally.

                        There's no easy quick fix solution I'm afraid

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                        • Ollie1981
                          Toner Monkey

                          250+ Posts
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 418

                          #13
                          Yeah I know.

                          But all the feed stations are stacked on top of each other in the vertical transport. So if you feed from tray 3 it has to go via the drive on trays 2 and 1 and the relay to get to registration.

                          As feed station 1 is closest to the dev unit, I was hoping that it took the worst of the dev leak and the other 2 feed stations wouldn't be too bad. Swapping them round might have helped him fault find but it looks like the dev has killed all three feed stations.

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                          • ISISTEPHANE
                            Technician
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 22

                            #14
                            i m thinking like you, replace all gears and bushing and at the edge the entire
                            units
                            thx both for helping me

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                            • iMind
                              Vacuum Cleaning Expert

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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1116

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ISISTEPHANE
                              And the LCT works well!!!
                              did you mean tandom tray or external LCT, if tandom forget door switch
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