MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

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  • slimslob
    Retired

    Site Contributor
    25,000+ Posts
    • May 2013
    • 36895
    #76
    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

    The original solution according to Ricoh is to replace the fusing unit with a new service replacement unit and then run SP 5810. The current procedure is to repair what ever the actual problem is and while you have the fusing unit apart, replace the reset fuse and then run SP 5810. The reset fuse comes with packed with all new fusing sleeves or can be ordered separately or sourced locally.

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      • copier tech
        Field Supervisor

        5,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2014
        • 8106
        #77
        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

        Anyone found a solution to getting more life out of theese fuser sleeves? Just had one rip on me, I only replaced it 90k ago!? Customer is only printing on plain paper.
        Tried leaving out the stripper plate but that can cause jams on full colour.
        03 fusers dont seem to have this issue, seems to me the 02 sleeve is simply poor quality.
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          • Sweden_GBG
            Technician
            • Nov 2012
            • 74
            #78
            Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

            Originally posted by copier tech
            Anyone found a solution to getting more life out of theese fuser sleeves? Just had one rip on me, I only replaced it 90k ago!? Customer is only printing on plain paper.
            Tried leaving out the stripper plate but that can cause jams on full colour.
            03 fusers dont seem to have this issue, seems to me the 02 sleeve is simply poor quality.
            Iam not sure, but is there not a new partnummber on the fusing unit? After a replace with D142-4011 I think it will work more than 90k?? And yes, with a quick fix you can use this fusing to all -02 (inside it is the same like the d144-4011). At least what I found out.

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              • Debs1964
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2010
                • 1687
                #79
                Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                Originally posted by Sweden_GBG
                Iam not sure, but is there not a new partnummber on the fusing unit? After a replace with D142-4011 I think it will work more than 90k?? And yes, with a quick fix you can use this fusing to all -02 (inside it is the same like the d144-4011). At least what I found out.
                D142 is for the MPC3002/MPC3502, D144 is for the MPC4502/MPC5502, the lamps are rated differently, and the base plates are different shapes too, these shouldn't be interchanged
                There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                  • Sweden_GBG
                    Technician
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 74
                    #80
                    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                    Originally posted by Debs1964
                    D142 is for the MPC3002/MPC3502, D144 is for the MPC4502/MPC5502, the lamps are rated differently, and the base plates are different shapes too, these shouldn't be interchanged
                    Are you sure? I have used about 20 of d142 and no one got a prob. Or cameback. I have looked at the lamped and found out they are the same (looked at the text on them). But I can be wrong was a long time ago I checked.
                    maybe there will be a prob. With the d142 on mpc 5502 if the run a lot of 250g paiper insted of 80g (plain)??

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                      • Cipher
                        It's not easy being green

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • May 2006
                        • 1309
                        #81
                        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                        The lamps on the D142 and D144 fusing sleeve are different.
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                          • Zeldaman
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 946
                            #82

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                              • Cipher
                                It's not easy being green

                                1,000+ Posts
                                • May 2006
                                • 1309
                                #83
                                Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                The D144 sleeve having the stronger lamps would probably be fine in the slower models as you suggest.

                                One of our techs did mistakenly fit a D142 sleeve to a 5502 fuser in the field and it did throw intermittent thermistor service codes until we spotted the problem.
                                The assumption being the lower rated lamps couldn't maintain the correct target temp at the higher speed.
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                                  • Sweden_GBG
                                    Technician
                                    • Nov 2012
                                    • 74
                                    #84
                                    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                    This is stange.. i will take a look on ghem agin tomorrow!
                                    But i can use the d144 insted... the most inportent to me is to have just one model in my car... like to have a low car stock!

                                    Originally posted by Cipher
                                    The D144 sleeve having the stronger lamps would probably be fine in the slower models as you suggest.

                                    One of our techs did mistakenly fit a D142 sleeve to a 5502 fuser in the field and it did throw intermittent thermistor service codes until we spotted the problem.
                                    The assumption being the lower rated lamps couldn't maintain the correct target temp at the higher speed.

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                                      • Zaxxon
                                        Senior Tech

                                        500+ Posts
                                        • Jan 2014
                                        • 608
                                        #85
                                        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                        Just some RTB on this.

                                        Fusing Sleeve RTB.pdf
                                        Please start you post with brand, model, problem.

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                                          • Sweden_GBG
                                            Technician
                                            • Nov 2012
                                            • 74
                                            #86
                                            Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                            Have checkt the lamp now (d142 vs d144) and yes d144 are bigger. So from now we only usr d144. Thansks all!

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                                              • darwinabad
                                                Technician
                                                • Jun 2014
                                                • 10
                                                #87
                                                Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                                Thanks to all, very important information i found in this thread,

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                                                  • loading
                                                    Technician
                                                    • Mar 2013
                                                    • 13
                                                    #88
                                                    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                                    Hello, today i have recived my first Sc 554 error in MPC 4502 i plan to order the fuse to reset the code is it allowed to put the fuse in fuser that comes from factory to reset the code, what i have viewed the the fuser is in good condition and the error has appeared with no reasons while printing plain paper.

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                                                      • TonerMunkeh
                                                        Professional Moron

                                                        2,500+ Posts
                                                        • Apr 2008
                                                        • 3865
                                                        #89
                                                        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                                        What's the PM counter on the sleeve?
                                                        It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                                                        Hit it.

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                                                          • Mark Bbb
                                                            Service Manager

                                                            1,000+ Posts
                                                            • Jun 2012
                                                            • 1662
                                                            #90
                                                            Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                                            Originally posted by loading
                                                            Hello, today i have recived my first Sc 554 error in MPC 4502 i plan to order the fuse to reset the code is it allowed to put the fuse in fuser that comes from factory to reset the code, what i have viewed the the fuser is in good condition and the error has appeared with no reasons while printing plain paper.
                                                            First, check out if lamps are ok. If not, replace them first; perhaps together with thermistors.

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