Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

[Vollegaaz]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

The units i have in schools with many Key-operators, we turn off the side to side and skew detection, helps a lot!

We have placed a lot of these machine where we had pro906's or pro907's, when these boxes are placed in schools where 50 teachers are using each machine, we constantly get calls for jamming and machines jammed to the point where we have to take the machines apart to remove all of the paper.

Not a good fit for schools, which is where most of these machines end up. These machines do work really well in print shops with just a few users.

[slimslob]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

We have placed a lot of these machine where we had pro906's or pro907's, when these boxes are placed in schools where 50 teachers are using each machine, we constantly get calls for jamming and machines jammed to the point where we have to take the machines apart to remove all of the paper.

Not a good fit for schools, which is where most of these machines end up. These machines do work really well in print shops with just a few users.

The key to placing these, or any production machine, in schools is to not allow everyone to use them. I have one at a school district. They learned years ago that it was less expensive to hire someone to run a print shop in the warehouse that to send major print jobs out. They have had the machine just over a month and have put over 500K on if already. The only thing I have had to do to it was update firmware last week.

My other schools that have Pro 907EX and Pro1107EXs all have designated key operators who do most of the copy jobs. They also have smaller machines that are available for the teachers to use for small jobs.

[anothertech]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

We have 18 in one school district and 10 in another school district, should we suggest the customers hire 28 more staff to run copies? The 906's and 907's work well with many operators, the 8100's do not. Ricoh does not have good replacement for the 907's yet. The 8100's do work really well in print shops, but print shop environments are fading away.

The big problem is jam removal, if we had a machine that had really good access to the paper path, the customers could get the jams out and continue running. Also, we need feed tires that last longer.

[Comatose]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

I have been servicing these for a while now and apart from the other tips mentioned a colleague of mine suggested adding a paper clip in between the two springs on the drum cleaning lubricant bar, on the machines we have tried this on the lube bars wear a lot more evenly and last the PM cycle with no adverse effects.

[houserman]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

I have been servicing these for a while now and apart from the other tips mentioned a colleague of mine suggested adding a paper clip in between the two springs on the drum cleaning lubricant bar, on the machines we have tried this on the lube bars wear a lot more evenly and last the PM cycle with no adverse effects.

Can you show me some pics, because i do not understand where you put the paper clip. THX

[Comatose]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Can you show me some pics, because i do not understand where you put the paper clip. THX

Lube Bar.PNG

Where the two springs attach the the pin at the center, instead of hooking on to the pin connect the two springs with a paperclip, hope that helps and will take a better pic next time I am at one if you need.

[qbert69]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

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Where the two springs attach the the pin at the center, instead of hooking on to the pin connect the two springs with a paperclip, hope that helps and will take a better pic next time I am at one if you need.

I would be interested to see more detail of this configuration!...would this help with other machine model lube bars that wear unevenly?

Is the paper clip re-shaped or completely left intact?

More details would be MUCH appreciated!!!

THANKS!

[Comatose]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

I would be interested to see more detail of this configuration!...would this help with other machine model lube bars that wear unevenly?

Is the paper clip re-shaped or completely left intact?

More details would be MUCH appreciated!!!

THANKS!

Paper clip left intactintact and as far as I am aware no other models with the same spring configuration suffers from the uneven wear isaue

[jam-o-matic]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Paper clip left intactintact and as far as I am aware no other models with the same spring configuration suffers from the uneven wear isaue

I used the paper clip trick on the C901's for a overdusting of the lube bar & uneven wear. As far as the 8100's we have had very good luck with the 'new' style feed tires, although they tend to wear out sooner, they provide a stronger feed across a variety of paper & conditions IMO.

[houserman]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

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Where the two springs attach the the pin at the center, instead of hooking on to the pin connect the two springs with a paperclip, hope that helps and will take a better pic next time I am at one if you need.

Thanks a lot!!!

[Comatose]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

I used the paper clip trick on the C901's for a overdusting of the lube bar & uneven wear. As far as the 8100's we have had very good luck with the 'new' style feed tires, although they tend to wear out sooner, they provide a stronger feed across a variety of paper & conditions IMO.

Have you tried the new new feed tyres, back to the harder compound but with a very deep tread as such. AF031098 and AF032098. Pickup roller is the same but feed and reverse are an almost purple color and very grippy feel to the surface.

[slimslob]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Have you tried the new new feed tyres, back to the harder compound but with a very deep tread as such. AF031098 and AF032098. Pickup roller is the same but feed and reverse are an almost purple color and very grippy feel to the surface.

The question is how quickly the feed and separation rollers will become smooth.

[Comatose]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

The question is how quickly the feed and separation rollers will become smooth.

Time will tell, am fitting them to my machines and think they will last longer.

[Vollegaaz]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

they look and feel good though, time will tell, i'm testing also!

[Di$c0]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Hey all, i have a dusting problem...not sure is it the ITB cleaning unit, Drum unit or PTR roller cleaning unit... i suspect the ITB cleaning unit...but their all centrally located and the fans circulate the toner thru the whole machine. appreciate any ideas