Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

[Vollegaaz]

Hi guys,
just curious if there's anyone here servicing the Baron, and if yes, what is your experience with this machine
I have a dozen in the field since september, and gotta say...nervous breakdown is just around the corner ;-)

pro's and con's please :-)

[Vollegaaz]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

loll, am i the only one who's servicing this machine? feels lonely though :-)

[Moza]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Not keen already, be prepared to replace lots of drum coating bars as they wear uneven and very quick. Ricoh say they should do 600k but at the moment your lucky if you get anywhere between 150 and 400

Also lots of J050 jams due to cis shift sensor

[Vollegaaz]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

yeah, i already replaced a couple of coating bars, but since the last firmware it should be able to get +300k.
J050 jams can be reduced when adjusting the papertype in the library...

Many PSU's died in the beginning, but there's a modificated PSU now, also the decurler can be a pain in the ass...

[Moza]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

yeah, i already replaced a couple of coating bars, but since the last firmware it should be able to get +300k.
J050 jams can be reduced when adjusting the papertype in the library...

Many PSU's died in the beginning, but there's a modificated PSU now, also the decurler can be a pain in the ass...

I find it easier just to switch the sensors off just like on the 1350's these things tend to cause more problems than good. Dont rate the finishers either too many SC720-35 !!

[houserman]

Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120 Jam J049 and J050

Here are the setting in order to get rid of those 2 types of jam:
CAUSE
Jam50 and Jam 80 are caused by paper skew in the registration unit, which occurs when paper in the feed tray is not neatly set.




SOLUTIONFor Jam50
Disable the side-to-side registration function in both SP1917 and SP1957.
And then, input a higher threshold value for the skew correction level setting in SP1022, or disable the skew detection function in both SP1021 and SP1955.




IMPORTANT

• Disabling or modifying the skew detection/correction functions will generate higher risk of skew problems.
  
• Make sure to disable both SP1917 and SP1957. Disabling only SP1917 will not take effect, because priority is given to SP1957 when using custom paper.
  
• Similarly to the above, make sure to disable both SP1021 and SP1955. Disabling only SP1021 will not take effect, because priority is given to SP1955 when using custom paper.

[imaginemoko]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

toner dusting inside the machine at 400K Developer, we tried to overhaul ah dev unit due to white line.. usually the mylar cleaner will do the job but it happen at the machine is in low volume user so the dev tank accumulate more toner as a result for light copies from a sticky toner at doctor blade. its a good machine just follow the pm count to avoid pain in the ass. :0

[Di$c0]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Hey, about to do my first 600k maintenance but dont have the zinc/yellow powder yet, any work arounds? what are you using?

[houserman]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Not keen already, be prepared to replace lots of drum coating bars as they wear uneven and very quick. Ricoh say they should do 600k but at the moment your lucky if you get anywhere between 150 and 400

Also lots of J050 jams due to cis shift sensor

Unfortunately you are very true with the lubricant which ends around 400k. Jam 49 and jam50 are solvable. There is a ricoh technical bulletin solving it... the machine is also sensible in enviromental conditions, temperature, humidity, that is why toner recirculation keeps clogging... i recommend pro 1357ex rather than pro 8120

[slimslob]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Thanks for the information. I just finished installing my first one yesterday.

[hana_freak]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120 Jam J049 and J050

Here are the setting in order to get rid of those 2 types of jam:
CAUSE
Jam50 and Jam 80 are caused by paper skew in the registration unit, which occurs when paper in the feed tray is not neatly set.




SOLUTIONFor Jam50
Disable the side-to-side registration function in both SP1917 and SP1957.
And then, input a higher threshold value for the skew correction level setting in SP1022, or disable the skew detection function in both SP1021 and SP1955.




IMPORTANT

• Disabling or modifying the skew detection/correction functions will generate higher risk of skew problems.
• Make sure to disable both SP1917 and SP1957. Disabling only SP1917 will not take effect, because priority is given to SP1957 when using custom paper.
• Similarly to the above, make sure to disable both SP1021 and SP1955. Disabling only SP1021 will not take effect, because priority is given to SP1955 when using custom paper.

This works for me too! TKS.
And I heard that exists a new firmware update to solve this problems too.

Antonio

[slimslob]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120 Jam J049 and J050

This works for me too! TKS.
And I heard that exists a new firmware update to solve this problems too.

Antonio

Current firmware is Package 2.02. It is on What's New on TSRC. Ricoh is recommending upgrading to it on your next service. Package 2.02 was released last week.

[houserman]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Hello! Don't worry about this machine, is a good one but needs some attention. First of all, it needs some space because the conditios are very important and second there are a few problems like lubricant bar of the cleaning unit that doesn't last as it should be and a few jams that can be fixed with the help of a technical bulletin. Write us if you have jam 049 frequently. Good luck

Hi guys,
just curious if there's anyone here servicing the Baron, and if yes, what is your experience with this machine
I have a dozen in the field since september, and gotta say...nervous breakdown is just around the corner ;-)

pro's and con's please :-)

[anothertech]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

We have placed a lot of these machine where we had pro906's or pro907's, when these boxes are placed in schools where 50 teachers are using each machine, we constantly get calls for jamming and machines jammed to the point where we have to take the machines apart to remove all of the paper.

Not a good fit for schools, which is where most of these machines end up. These machines do work really well in print shops with just a few users.

[Vollegaaz]

Re: Baron Pro 8100/8110/8120

Well, almost 2 years later and almost 25 units in the field, have to say it's a good engine, after all the modifications and firmware updates it runs pretty good.
Altough, the last 2-3 months i've had a few SC465, 3times on different machines, cleaning blade of the PTR unit get stuck between the brush and PTR roller, without any visible reason? Besides that, no major issues, we do turn off the side to side and Skew detection though.

Hello! Don't worry about this machine, is a good one but needs some attention. First of all, it needs some space because the conditios are very important and second there are a few problems like lubricant bar of the cleaning unit that doesn't last as it should be and a few jams that can be fixed with the help of a technical bulletin. Write us if you have jam 049 frequently. Good luck