MP6002 jamming with only 350k

[apump]

Anyone had issues with this model giving 003,008 jam codes with only around 350k copies on it. I have had 4 doing this already. swapped feed units to get it fixed, but would like to know what the deal is with 4 of them. last one I worked on I swapped just the torque limiter for the separation roller so we will see how that works out after I check on it in couple weeks

[slimslob]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Both jam codes are lead edge jams. J003 is a feed jam from tray one where the paper did not make it to the feed sensor. J008 is a feed jam from tray one where the paper made it to the feed sensor but did not make it to the first transport sensor. Both can be caused by a feed roller that has become slick.

[elmertech]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Both jam codes are lead edge jams. J003 is a feed jam from tray one where the paper did not make it to the feed sensor. J008 is a feed jam from tray one where the paper made it to the feed sensor but did not make it to the first transport sensor. Both can be caused by a feed roller that has become slick.

may be you can check the registration unit....paper dust would be there....

[Moza]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

may be you can check the registration unit....paper dust would be there....

Yes it is a good idea to keep registration clean although its more likely to be what Slim said as J008 means the paper hasnt even got to registration yet. I had an MP C6501 last week giving intermittent J008 and all I did was remove feed section 1 give it a good clean replaced feed tyres cleaned transport rollers and voila!

[Tonerbomb]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Those fancy blue neoprene rollers that are rated for 1000000 clicks, don't ever get close to 1000000. If you got 350k on them, it's time for new rollers.............

[slimslob]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Those fancy blue neoprene rollers that are rated for 1000000 clicks, don't ever get close to 1000000. If you got 350k on them, it's time for new rollers.............

Closest I have been able to get is about 800K. And that is on high usage accounts with top quality paper.

[apump]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Well I had 2 more of these today with same code. On one of them the feed roller wouldn't come off the shaft, had to pry it off. another tech worked on the other copier for me (went home sick) and he said he had same problem, he had to pry feed roller off. again it was 003, 0008 jam codes. 300k on rollers

[KapeKopyTek]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

We have many of these machine in schools. I go into each school with 2 sets of af030081, af031082, af032080. I rarely leave the school wwith the same number of rollers that I went in with. Also a couple of a8592241 (adf rev rollers, which get slick even faster than the tray rollers). I blow out the pfus, change the rollers, vac out the reg sensor area, exercise all the feed components through output checks, and as a last resort, pull each pfu. Occasionally I have found developer leaking from the bushings in the dev unit spilling down onto the pfu, although I've only seen this in high mileage (1 million plus) machines. That requires gear, bearing, and bushing changes.

[anothertech]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

Well I had 2 more of these today with same code. On one of them the feed roller wouldn't come off the shaft, had to pry it off. another tech worked on the other copier for me (went home sick) and he said he had same problem, he had to pry feed roller off. again it was 003, 0008 jam codes. 300k on rollers

If you got 300k on those rollers you did good, I like to get new rollers in around 200k, before they start giving us a problem.
I don't know how Ricoh can say they should last 1000k, I've never heard of them lasting that long, even under ideal conditions.

[apump]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

I have of these in my territory, 6001, 7001, 6002. I have been getting 600k plus regularly on these rollers, that's why I'm surprised at this. an only with the 6002 am I seeing this. most of mine have around 1.4 mil or more on them now except these last installs.

[mcj011486]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

I have an MP6002 that is in a school giving me 008 misfeeds. I have cleaned feed and transport rollers, replaced feed head rollers, replaced right side tray unit with no success. I can run single copies all day with no problem, but almost anytime I run multiples, it misfeeds. If I run a single copy, the rest of the paper in the tray looks like normal feed with 1 sheet prefed slightly. On multiples, paper seems feed a little farther, but maybe just passed the feed detect sensor, but not to the first transport sensor. Any Ideas? Thanks! Also, all other trays feed fine, and reversing motor seems to be working.

[slimslob]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

This sounds like a known problem with the Martini all the way back to the 1060/1075 but still applicable to the MP 6002 as it still uses the same feed modules.

You most likely have a bad one-way gear on a feed module, depending on whether you are feeding from tray1 or tray 2.
For tray 1 replace gear B on feed module 1.
gears3.jpg
For tray 2 replace gear A on feed module 2
Gears2.jpg.
For more information see TSB 018 R for the Aficio 1060.

[GIUBOSS]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

I have an MP6002 that is in a school giving me 008 misfeeds. I have cleaned feed and transport rollers, replaced feed head rollers, replaced right side tray unit with no success. I can run single copies all day with no problem, but almost anytime I run multiples, it misfeeds. If I run a single copy, the rest of the paper in the tray looks like normal feed with 1 sheet prefed slightly. On multiples, paper seems feed a little farther, but maybe just passed the feed detect sensor, but not to the first transport sensor. Any Ideas? Thanks! Also, all other trays feed fine, and reversing motor seems to be working.

How about starting a new thread because you resurrected a 10+ year old one? That said, check and clean the log section well you will see it very snowy. Same problem with all paper drawers?

[mcj011486]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

This sounds like a known problem with the Martini all the way back to the 1060/1075 but still applicable to the MP 6002 as it still uses the same feed modules.

You most likely have a bad one-way gear on a feed module, depending on whether you are feeding from tray1 or tray 2.
For tray 1 replace gear B on feed module 1.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]57625[/ATTACH]
For tray 2 replace gear A on feed module 2
[ATTACH=CONFIG]57626[/ATTACH].
For more information see TSB 018 R for the Aficio 1060.

Thank you very much! I will give that a try.

[mcj011486]

Re: MP6002 jamming with only 350k

How about starting a new thread because you resurrected a 10+ year old one? That said, check and clean the log section well you will see it very snowy. Same problem with all paper drawers?

No, just with tray 1. All other trays feed fine.