Has anyone tried using developer from an e5540/5560c series machine in an e5506AC series? I have a 7506AC that will be replaced in 2 months and the Y dev is depleted despite only having 250k on it. The price of dev is so high and I have several D-FC65-Y bottles kicking around that I won't use. I've confirmed that the hopper assembly you remove to put the dev bottle in is the same part number from e5520c up to e5516AC, so I know the bottle will fit and most likely feed the dev. It wouldn't surprise me if the material is identical or near enough for it to work. But I'm curious if someone has already done this with any success?
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
I don't think so, but I'm willing to be corrected.
D-FC65-Y is the part name for developer in the e5540c series. On that series you remove a hopper assembly that resides between the toner cartridges and the dev unit, plug in the dev bottle and run the code that will feed fresh developer into the developer unit. I have determined that the hopper assembly is identical on both models, so I'm assuming if the hopper is the same then the developer bottle will fit in that spot and feed into the dev unit. But it's the developer material that I'm not so sure of. It wouldn't surprise me if it's the same stuff, just given a new part # so we buy it and not use old stock.
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
That's what I thought to until I realized what model Toshiba he was working on, these older ones have actual dv boxes that attach the frame of the machine.
I have only ever added dv material directly to the dv units themselves, and it works well with very few issues. Never actually tried from setup though. You can use pretty much any of the 2555-5055 to the 5560 type unit dv across both series. The light blue Toshibas as we refer to them...
You could also look at the MSDS sheets which would list the chemical composition and weighted amount of material for both developers
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I'd say that your odds are good. I'd go for it. I don't think that it has an EEPROM that might detect a mismatch.
@Phil: This machine is kinda unique. When you do a developer change on one of these you pour/vacuum out the developing unit and install it empty. You insert the imaging drawer and remove the toner hopper assembly. In place of the hopper you install a developer cartridge (in this case yellow) that mates in the place the hopper was. You can install CMY or K developer cartridges at the same time. When you run the developer stir, it runs the toner motor to feed the developer out of the cartridge, into the developing unit, then stir.
It's the only machine I know like this. These machines are all built on the same basic frame: eS5520C series, eS5540C series, eS5560 series, eS5506ACT series, eS5516ACT series, eS5508A series (black only), and eS5518A series (black only).
And this developer could be lifetime developer. There is no prescribed yield, and it's spiked from developer in the toner. =^..^=If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
Been wondering similar things - not had time to dig up the MSDS and other info available to see what developer is the same for what models.
Generally speaking it makes sense that the developer material is the same pretty much all the way around for certain model blocks and the only real difference is the quantity of developer.
Toshiba developer is stupid overpriced and I have had several developers in various models deplete for this or that reason and wonder if I could replenish the developer material from a gently used boneyard machine...
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
With that pricey developers i wonder why nobody tried...I certainly would if have machines.A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
Yep, do it all the time. That way I don't have a bunch of old stock on the shelf.
I've also used 4555 developer in the 4015 series machines and vice versa.
Just as long as you calibrate the developer. The only variation is I check the quantity in the bottle
If the "normal" developer is less than what I'm going to use, I'll remove about a capfull or two.Comment
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My guys are "part farming" this morning and just happened to be farming these units, so I snapped a few pics.
FRONT VIEW.jpg DV HARVEST.jpg
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The claim of "lifetime developer" has been such a frustration. I found the e5540c series particularly bad at losing dev. That's why I have some dev for that series still in stock. I'm shocked how many times the developer doesn't even make it to the first PM cycle. I think these machines are meant to be run at high monthly volumes of color. Unfortunately, many of the ones in my territory were sold for speed, not volume, so the color count stays fairly low.Why does every customer think they're the first one to ever say: "you've been here so much we should get you an office, ha, ha, ha"?Comment
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
Thanks for this! I've confirmed the dev material is 410 g in both series. So there shouldn't be an issue. I've order a bottle of D-FC556-Y so I'll have it in case I need it. Worst case scenario is I try the D-FC65-Y and it doesn't work, so I vacuum it out and put in the D-FC556-Y.
I'll let everyone know how I make out.
Thanks again for all the posts! It's great to hear from everyone on these life hack type ideas.
Why does every customer think they're the first one to ever say: "you've been here so much we should get you an office, ha, ha, ha"?Comment
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Re: Using D-FC65 developer in e5506AC machine
Thanks for this! I've confirmed the dev material is 410 g in both series. So there shouldn't be an issue. I've order a bottle of D-FC556-Y so I'll have it in case I need it. Worst case scenario is I try the D-FC65-Y and it doesn't work, so I vacuum it out and put in the D-FC556-Y.
I'll let everyone know how I make out.
Thanks again for all the posts! It's great to hear from everyone on these life hack type ideas.
Heck, I've swapped parts all the way back to the BD-7812's, 5520's etc.
Drum blades, developer, drums, fuser rollers etc.
I know once we had a TABS rep come up from Dallas, and we went on a CQ problem on a 4511. Drum was
covered in that "wax" from the old toner. He said you got a new drum with you? I said no reason to change it.
I pulled the drum, got some cotton pads and some brasso and polished the drum. He said you can't do that!
I said why not? Won't hurt, if that drum is bad, it will have to be replaced anyway.
Cleaned it off, hit it with some starting powder, installed it, pulled the charge corona out (you could do that
on analog machines), ran about 20 blanks, put the charge corona back in, ran about a dozen and it looked almost
brand new.
Hey, when you have to sometimes work on machines out in the middle of rural America, you learn all sorts of
things to do, to keep em running.
I know the hotline about had a heart attack when the 2830's were new. Had one in a metal works shop and
the airflow through the laser kept getting the mirrors dirty. I called the hotline and told them of my fix by taking
the laser apart, cleaning the mirrors with a makeup brush, then, sealing around the cover with sticky tape including
the heat sink and it fixed it.
The response? You can't take that laser apart! It's a sealed unit. Ummm then why does the cover have SCREWS?
He said it's a non repairable item. I said it was put together wasn't it?Comment
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