e-studio 281c

[bruce 49dcs]

yes I know this machine is older than dirt but one of my church customers still has a working one the transfer belt tore in half
there are a few on ebay new that say 281c 451c then 3511c 4511c well the parts guides for both machines show a different part number and I have heard they are different but im getting conflicting info from other websites that sell belts some list them seperatly and some say they are the same
please advise
thank you
bruce
49 dollar copier svc.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: e-studio 281c

I have spent the last 10 years forgetting about everything I used to know about these 1st generation colour copiers.

You cannot go forward in the copier business if you hang onto the past for too long.

[Rusty.Harris]

Re: e-studio 281c

WOW! Boy, that brings back nighmares. The 281 series was a HUGE upgrade from the 3511 series!
And that ain't sayin' much.

The part numbers for the 281C series belt & 3511 belt are different.

6LE41366000 ASYS-TBU-BELT-F41X <<<<281C series belt

6LA40370000 BT-3511TR <<<<3511 series belt

I went to look in Web Ribon, the online Toshiba parts manual and I couldn't even find the 281 listed! LOL
Went to the computer CD Ribon we still have on the shop computer and found the part numbers.
I remember the first day of TABS school on the 4511...called my boss when I got back to the hotel the
first night (I'd been working on TABS for about 11 years at the time, copiers about 15 years)
Told him whatever you do, DO NOT let anyone touch these machines, unless they have been to school or
I gave them training...those damn things scared the crap out of me. What you had to do, just to get the transfer
belt, drum & developer units out was a PITA!

[blackcat4866]

Re: e-studio 281c

Ali Express claims that they're the compatible. I personally have never seen the 3511C, but the build is so similar that I'd probably try it.

I can tell you for sure that 6LE41366000 has not been available from Toshiba for 3+ years. =^..^=

[gliderider]

Re: e-studio 281c

The 3511/4511 series was my first foray into the world of Toshiba color copiers. It's a wonder I didn't pull all my hair out. I remember going around to al the ones we had in the field and replacing the drive belts that were falling apart. One thing I learned was that if you could work on those out in the field then anything else was easy and I carried that lesson with me to this day. So if I was having a bad day working on a color copier I would say to myself, "a least it's not a 3511!"

[tsbservice]

Re: e-studio 281c

The 3511/4511 series was my first foray into the world of Toshiba color copiers. It's a wonder I didn't pull all my hair out. I remember going around to al the ones we had in the field and replacing the drive belts that were falling apart. One thing I learned was that if you could work on those out in the field then anything else was easy and I carried that lesson with me to this day. So if I was having a bad day working on a color copier I would say to myself, "a least it's not a 3511!"

Absolutely agree. My first color Toshy was FC15/22 but having a few 3511/4511 in the field was enlightening Just doing PM on one of these POS was like full day job even after doing this 3-4 times before. Infamous revolver developer units system, numerous BSIs just to patch it, awful colors...boy C281 was huge relief after that although for sure not good machine itself.

[blackcat4866]

Re: e-studio 281c

Primary transfer belt.jpg

The illustration is a little different in RIBON. It's hard to tell.

[Rusty.Harris]

Re: e-studio 281c

Does anyone remember when they came out with the mod kit for the 3511 that fixed the issue with the drum belt ripping apart, that consisted
of belts, new gears etc?
First one of those I changed, myself & another tech, both factory trained on that #$!@)% thing, took us a couple hours to pull it
all apart and get it back together.

[MarkG52]

Re: e-studio 281c

Wowzers, y'all are bringing back the nightmares! That belt kit on 3511's was a real booger. You had to gut the machine just to clean laser slit glass. Did y'all ever have an auger break in the waste toner system? And TABS in their infinite wisdom sells a bunch of 281/351C's to a major national account but guess what, they are going to be black only machines. And oh by the way, y'all need to keep them running well past when they should have been obsolete. To answer the original question, no, the belts are not the same.

[Rusty.Harris]

Re: e-studio 281c

Wowzers, y'all are bringing back the nightmares! That belt kit on 3511's was a real booger. You had to gut the machine just to clean laser slit glass. Did y'all ever have an auger break in the waste toner system? And TABS in their infinite wisdom sells a bunch of 281/351C's to a major national account but guess what, they are going to be black only machines. And oh by the way, y'all need to keep them running well past when they should have been obsolete. To answer the original question, no, the belts are not the same.

Yeah! I remember all those national account 351's they turned into black only machines. What a joke.
I think it's also why when we get 4018A series or 3015AC series machines as national accounts, they almost always
come with an INTERNAL finsher. I think TABS has a warehouse full of those things they can't give away.

[MarkG52]

Re: e-studio 281c

Yeah! I remember all those national account 351's they turned into black only machines. What a joke.
I think it's also why when we get 4018A series or 3015AC series machines as national accounts, they almost always
come with an INTERNAL finsher. I think TABS has a warehouse full of those things they can't give away.

And pedestals! I think the only pedestal bases we ever installed is on National Account machines.

[ryan123]

Re: e-studio 281c

yes I know this machine is older than dirt but one of my church customers still has a working one the transfer belt tore in half
there are a few on ebay new that say 281c 451c then 3511c 4511c well the parts guides for both machines show a different part number and I have heard they are different but im getting conflicting info from other websites that sell belts some list them seperatly and some say they are the same
please advise
thank you
bruce
49 dollar copier svc.

Hi Bruce - did you ever find out if the 3511c transfer belt was compatible with the 281c?

[MarkG52]

Re: e-studio 281c

Hi Bruce - did you ever find out if the 3511c transfer belt was compatible with the 281c?

281c Transfer Belt 6LE41366000
3511c Transfer Belt 6LA40370000
If I remember correctly the 3511c Transfer Belt is way bigger than 281c belt. I know you said that the rubber band inside your belt was no good, but, have you tried cleaning the reflectors for the sensors? Little shiny squares attached inside the belt. I think there is 4 of them. In a pinch, we even used aluminum tape if one was missing or totally worn out.

[blackcat4866]

Re: e-studio 281c

Those edge strips disintegrate into a gummy brown goo that sticks on the inside of the belt, the rollers, and everything else. You can clean it off, but it will come back again soon. It almost sounds like tape peeling off of the roll. =^..^=

[copytechman]

Re: e-studio 281c

OMG memories of Toshiba training! I remember going to Toshiba Canada and being trained on the 3511 series and the 281c series.. Amongst others. What a huge POS the 3511 was and god replacing the belt unit and the drive unit in the back ... ewwwww.. When I moved to KM it was like a huge difference (modules and image units oh my!)

Regards!
A.