Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

[Kiran Otter]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

Hi guys,
i have a formatter card dj800ps with hdd dead, anyone can help me?
i need the hdd image and instruction to copy to new hdd.
thanks in advance.
Massimo.

I'll PM you.

Kiran

[fernandometz@hotmail.com]

Designjet t2500 hard drive

Need help with HP Designjet T2500 Postscript eMFP Product No. CR359A, does anyone have image for the hard drive (CR357-67083) it is Rev. A. 320 gbAnyone know how to create a Virgin Hard Drive with firmware on it?Thanks.

[Kiran Otter]

Re: Designjet t2500 hard drive

Need help with HP Designjet T2500 Postscript eMFP Product No. CR359A, does anyone have image for the hard drive (CR357-67083) it is Rev. A. 320 gbAnyone know how to create a Virgin Hard Drive with firmware on it?Thanks.

Only source I know of for a T2500 drive is LPS Computer.

HP Designjet T1500, T2500 New 500gb Hard Disk Drive HDD L2Y23-67005, L

Maybe someone else will have a way to set up one by hand.

Kiran

[Massimo Italy]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

I'll PM you.

Kiran

Thanks Kiran,

i searched in the old stuff for an ide hdd but they were all broken, but i remembered i had compact flash to ide adapters with 8gb cards, i uploaded the image and it worked.
I hope this can be useful to know.

[Chungalin]

DesignJet z5600ps

[Kazzy]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

I will throw in my $ 0.02 to this. I will be attempting to clone a working Designjet 4000, 40GB drive that has only 8GB left... No jobs stored whatsoever. I have a spare HDD and an SSD. The firmware version is 5.5 and honestly I might upgrade it via EWS once. I read somewhere that the formatter board doesn't have a controller for SSDs installed in any HP Designjets... A Russian guy on YouTube proved me wrong. I will attempt both and will share my results here. I'm quite happy to get the nozzles in majority back to operating condition. Machine sat for around 5 years from what I seen on the error logs and the dust cover.

[Samir]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

New to the party, but I have a lot of experience with hard drive cloning and whatnot so I'll share what I know.

First, If it's an IDE drive and you want to replace it with a compact flash card, that should be a very easy fix since CF cards are native IDE. You simply need an adapter like this one from startech that doesn't do any type of translation or funny stuff:
IDE 40 Pin to Compact Flash SSD Adapter - Drive Adapters and Drive Converters | Hard Drive Accessories | StarTech.com
40/44 Pin IDE to CF SSD Adapter - Drive Adapters and Drive Converters | Hard Drive Accessories | StarTech.com
3.5in Drive Bay IDE to CF Adapter Card - Internal Card Readers | Hard Drive Accessories | StarTech.com

Note the connector that goes into the drive interface/cable. Depending on the situation and space, you may want to use the bay version to mount it like the hard drive was. These adapters should be completely transparent to the machine and appear as a genuine IDE drive. (They're also used often for retro/vintage computers to replace those hard drives too.)

Second, let's talk about cloning. If you have an existing drive and want to clone it fast and dead simple on the spot when you suspect it's just a bad drive, a cloning dock does the job fast and easy. I have this one by Startech, but they make newer ones too:
Dual Bay SATA Hard Drive Duplicator - HDD Duplicators - Hard Drive Cloning/Copying | StarTech.com

Newer ones:
SATA HDD Duplicator Dock - eSATA USB - HDD Duplicators - Hard Drive Cloning/Copying | StarTech.com

https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/sdock2u313r

This one would be the ultimate if you run into a lot of IDE drives, but it's now discontinued and expensive even used:

https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/unidupdock

But startech as these adapters for their sata docks for IDE drives:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016909-REG/startech_sat2ideadp_sata_3_5_2_5_ide_hdd.html

If you want to go the computer route for cloning, there's only one thing I recommend--Clonezilla Live CD. It's a simple booting CD that will allow you to clone any drive to a drive, or a drive to an image, or an image to a drive (including USB drives so you can use your dock that way to write an image if you want). I've been using this for years. You can even use it over a network drive, like to a NAS. So you can easily clone or restore images to a drive from a central repository if you have one.

Of all these options, I prefer the cloning dock because it is the most accurate by far since it doesn't attempt to access the source drive in any way except to read its sectors. Clonezilla attempts to do the same thing, but hardware implementations are usually better (and faster) than software hence my preference for the dock. Plus, with a dock you can literally do it on the spot--and fast!

Also, I need to mention the importance of quality. Notice I recommended only Startech branded products even though there's probably 100x clones out there? These a simple reason why I did--quality. You won't have a problem down the line because an IDE CF adapter stopped working or a drive clone wasn't done right. It. Just. Works. I think almost everything I have from startech is still working 10yrs+ later.

Hope this helps! Feel free to ask questions!

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

Hi - i have managed to copy the hdd for a z5600 that's new. - there's lots of partitions named ex3- 1-3 - ect..

in the folder i found PUMA_01_03_00.1.unsigned.fmw.sig - - this is the signature file .
is this possibly be the first firmware this machine was shipped with
if anyone want me to find certain files or folders on the hdd -

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

just found a whole html file with the system error codes
#

0x20107006

LOPES_EH_BSL_FILL_CHAR_BLOCK_TIMEOUT

Internal Software error.

79:04

Assertion

Update system software (firmware).

STRING_POWER_OFF

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

System Errors - Index by Customer Code

0x10504001

DRACO_DATA_MNGMT_NVM_MAIN_CRASH

Main NVM failure: not detected, read/write failed or readback error.

06:10

Hard disk

Replace.

STRING_POWER_OFF

[Samir]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

Hi - i have managed to copy the hdd for a z5600 that's new. - there's lots of partitions named ex3- 1-3 - ect..

in the folder i found PUMA_01_03_00.1.unsigned.fmw.sig - - this is the signature file .
is this possibly be the first firmware this machine was shipped with
if anyone want me to find certain files or folders on the hdd -

Be sure to keep a copy of that drive image if someone needs it.

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

Sure will do, i have not tested it yet i didn't plug the machine in.

The machine is now put away in stock -
the hdd copy is done on acronis true image.

for other machines i think they need a certain boot partition then have the firmware on the usb to do a firmware update or see if the eeprom reset can be done.

[Samir]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

Sure will do, i have not tested it yet i didn't plug the machine in.

The machine is now put away in stock -
the hdd copy is done on acronis true image.

for other machines i think they need a certain boot partition then have the firmware on the usb to do a firmware update or see if the eeprom reset can be done.

Got it. This is one of the reasons I use a dock or clonezilla--a dock gets every single bit off the drive whereas software typically won't. This can sometimes mean the difference between working or not working when you put it in the machine.

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

as i have the hdd encryption password so i unlocked the drive and copied it that way.

[wav]

Re: Anyone successfully clone a Designjet hard drive?

hi update i have manage to get a hold of the PUMA_01_03_00.1.fmw file.

if anyone want it to try and install the firmware.


hdd partition list

1st 244.1mb
2nd 11.4gb
3rd 11.4gb
4th 1.9gb
5th 19.1gb
6th 38.1gb
7th 85.8gb
8th 47.7gb
9th 47.7gb
10th 33.4gb
hdd model
ST500LT012-1DG142
500GB SEAGATE