Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Haha... I showed someone how to do it once, and a while later had to go on a recall for him. He had bent it the wrong way. It's also possible to bend it too far, or not far enough.
If it takes you more than a half hour just to get to it (as is the case with these machines), I'd say you'd be a lot safer using electrical tape... unless you've done it enough to not have to worry about doing it wrong.
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
In my case I used electrical tape and wrapped around where the foam used to be about 3~4 times (after I wipe the old foam out completely), but I actually like the idea of bending the metal slightly, I am just worried that not everyone knows how to bend it right, fortunately theengel had pretty clear pictures earlier in this thread that they can just refer to. But yeah, definitely repad or bend the metal plate on the solenoid, regardless if the solenoid is from a refurbished or new fuser drive assembly.Leave a comment:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
In my case I used electrical tape and wrapped around where the foam used to be about 3~4 times (after I wipe the old foam out completely), but I actually like the idea of bending the metal slightly, I am just worried that not everyone knows how to bend it right, fortunately theengel had pretty clear pictures earlier in this thread that they can just refer to. But yeah, definitely repad or bend the metal plate on the solenoid, regardless if the solenoid is from a refurbished or new fuser drive assembly.Leave a comment:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Tina2040, Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to pull the solenoid off off the new drive assemblies assuming i don't find any shavings or damage parts on the old fuser drive assembly. Hopefully that will finally get these two units fixed. I'm loosing to much sleep thinking and researching this error. Did you have to remove any parts to get to that solenoid once you got to the fuser drive assembly or did it just screw right off.
Thanks again Cesar
Just a word on that...
Replacing the solenoid means someone is going to have to take it apart again, if the machine lasts that long. Repadding with tape or bending the metal means it won't ever become an issue again.Leave a comment:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Yes I know that error is related to the ITB, but it's the solenoid that's throwing the timing off of the gears, causing all kinds of timing mismatch inside, and thus causing the printer to display that 59.00.F0 error.
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Tina2040, Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to pull the solenoid off off the new drive assemblies assuming i don't find any shavings or damage parts on the old fuser drive assembly. Hopefully that will finally get these two units fixed. I'm loosing to much sleep thinking and researching this error. Did you have to remove any parts to get to that solenoid once you got to the fuser drive assembly or did it just screw right off.
Thanks again Cesar
There is a black cable routing plastic piece that you have to move out of the way to reveal the solenoid (that black plastic piece is only on the printer and wouldn't come with the new fuser drive assembly), take a look at the new fuser drive assembly and try to take the solenoid off it from the back by taking out like 1~2 screws, but do note the location of it prior to taking it off so you know how to reinstall it back. Also be careful when you take the solenoid off to not damage the thin wires of the solenoid, you'll be getting the solenoid out from behind a small square/rectangle-ish metal plate, roughly the size of the solenoid. Also if you do it this way, you won't be able to see if solenoid is 100% firmly in the correct place inside the printer, you have to do it feeling that it's in the right place.
I know it's confusing, but if you compare the old fuser drive assembly (while still inside the printer) to the new fuser drive assembly, you'll see what I am talking about.
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Hi Phil B
Thanks for you're reply, unfortunately i've changed all the parts recommended in the link. the error still continues. My last resort is to change that fuser drive assembly with it's solenoid and pray that solves the error.
Thanks
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
Tina2040, Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to pull the solenoid off off the new drive assemblies assuming i don't find any shavings or damage parts on the old fuser drive assembly. Hopefully that will finally get these two units fixed. I'm loosing to much sleep thinking and researching this error. Did you have to remove any parts to get to that solenoid once you got to the fuser drive assembly or did it just screw right off.
Thanks again Cesar
Error Codes > HP > Color LaserJet CM4540 MFP > Code 59.00.F0Leave a comment:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
I have fixed a HP LaserJet CM4540 with this same exact error once, and I would highly recommend that you replace either the solenoid or replace the whole fuser drive assembly. However, like all the previous posts suggested, when you put a cleaned solenoid back, make sure you either put some material that won't deteriorate in the place of that pad, for about 1 to 2 millimeter, I used electrical tape myself, but alternatively you can also bend that metal plate. The idea is to simply give it enough space so the solenoid plate can de-magnetize and return it to default position. I don't know how to explain it properly, but that's the best way I can put it.
If I have to guess a frequency of the culprit of that 59.00.F0 error, I'd say the solenoid on the fuser drive assembly account for 90% of this error. Not saying that fuser, transfer belt, DC Controller PCA, or SR9 sensors can't cause this error, but majority of the time this issue is just caused by the solenoid's foam pad worn after a few years, causing the solenoid plate to stick and not returning to default position right away, and even 1/10th of a second off will cause the gears to misalign and you'll get this dreaded 59.00.F0 error.
Good luck on your repair, in my case I was able to just replace the solenoid from the new fuser drive assembly and I didn't have to replace the whole fuser drive assembly, doing so will save you quite a bit of time, as long as you have the right service manual and somewhat experienced with HP Laser Printer repair, this job should be a piece of cake, although it would still take you 2 hours minimum (most likely will take you 3 hours or so, but don't let that discourage you) which includes cleaning off the pad off the solenoid and put new materials on or bend the solenoid plate. The satisfaction you get after fixing the 59.00.F0 though, is not something that can be described by words. It's like if you fixed this 59.00.F0, you'd feel like you can take on any future 59.00.F0 coming your way.
Tina2040, Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to pull the solenoid off off the new drive assemblies assuming i don't find any shavings or damage parts on the old fuser drive assembly. Hopefully that will finally get these two units fixed. I'm loosing to much sleep thinking and researching this error. Did you have to remove any parts to get to that solenoid once you got to the fuser drive assembly or did it just screw right off.
Thanks again CesarLeave a comment:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
I have fixed a HP LaserJet CM4540 with this same exact error once, and I would highly recommend that you replace either the solenoid or replace the whole fuser drive assembly. However, like all the previous posts suggested, when you put a cleaned solenoid back, make sure you either put some material that won't deteriorate in the place of that pad, for about 1 to 2 millimeter, I used electrical tape myself, but alternatively you can also bend that metal plate. The idea is to simply give it enough space so the solenoid plate can de-magnetize and return it to default position. I don't know how to explain it properly, but that's the best way I can put it.
If I have to guess a frequency of the culprit of that 59.00.F0 error, I'd say the solenoid on the fuser drive assembly account for 90% of this error. Not saying that fuser, transfer belt, DC Controller PCA, or SR9 sensors can't cause this error, but majority of the time this issue is just caused by the solenoid's foam pad worn after a few years, causing the solenoid plate to stick and not returning to default position right away, and even 1/10th of a second off will cause the gears to misalign and you'll get this dreaded 59.00.F0 error.
Good luck on your repair, in my case I was able to just replace the solenoid from the new fuser drive assembly and I didn't have to replace the whole fuser drive assembly, doing so will save you quite a bit of time, as long as you have the right service manual and somewhat experienced with HP Laser Printer repair, this job should be a piece of cake, although it would still take you 2 hours minimum (most likely will take you 3 hours or so, but don't let that discourage you) which includes cleaning off the pad off the solenoid and put new materials on or bend the solenoid plate. The satisfaction you get after fixing the 59.00.F0 though, is not something that can be described by words. It's like if you fixed this 59.00.F0, you'd feel like you can take on any future 59.00.F0 coming your way.
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
I never saw the post you quoted there... or maybe I saw how long it was and decided not to read it. For any one seeing it, DON'T DO THAT.
You can't put it back without either re-padding it or bending the metal to keep the plate from coming so close to the magnet. The plate magnetizes and sticks. It doesn't happen as consistently as it did with the sticky stuff, but eventually it will happen.
Most of the guys re-pad them with something. I bend the plate, as shown here:
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Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error
You can't put it back without either re-padding it or bending the metal to keep the plate from coming so close to the magnet. The plate magnetizes and sticks. It doesn't happen as consistently as it did with the sticky stuff, but eventually it will happen.
Most of the guys re-pad them with something. I bend the plate, as shown here:
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WOW... i have the same issue here.
Almost every Laserjet printer need this solenoid repair!
4 hours here too
Hi all, just wanted to add my experience with this issue.
In my case the ITB was moving (the black was window rotating properly) and the gear was rotating upon visual inspection and the optical sensor was working fine. However shortly after powering on the printer a "whirring" sound would be heard and the 59.F0 error would popup and the printer would be offline. Also when running the ITB diagnostic a this whirring noise would also be heard sometimes which was never heard before.
Following Bernielhat's suggestions, I resolved the problem removing and cleaning the degraded foam "click silencer" from the solenoid actuator lever. In our case the gear was not misaligned and nothing was broken and the solenoid was working fine, it was just sticking so that the gear did not stop when it should have as the actuator would not "drop" in time and a "whirring" o fast clicking noise (like slipping gears) was heard from the side. This is because the large "double gear" has a small dent/camme where the solenoid actuator should lock on to stop it from rotating but being held back by the sticky foam it would drop after half a second missing the stop point. The gear would then rotate too far as it is spring loaded and hit the relevent primary gear. When the primary gear rotated it's gears would "slip" on the spring loaded gear and create the whirring or clicking noise which I heard as out of alignment. This subsequently misaligned the ITB black "window" which rotates on the ITB and the relevant sensor would not detect the correct position resulting in the 59.F0 error. For additional reference I will attach some photos of the solenoid and gear assembly.
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The solenoid can be dismantled easily (the photos show the solenoid without the actuator which I already removed): after unscrewing the 2 screws from the solenoid assembly, remove the solenoid from the gear assembly lifting and rotating it out. Then carefully remove the actuator spring and lift off the metal actuator by slightly tilting it to one side and lifting it off, it's easier said than done. Clean off the black adhesive pad using some alcohol or solvent. I used first my finger then some alcohol and my nails to remove the remaining adhesive. Remount it the opposite way, first the actuator then the spring and place it back in the gear subassembly taking care of lifting the metal actuator with a small screwdriver while inserting it back into position as it will get in contact with the gear if not pressed back. Hold it there and put the 2 screws back into place.
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The "clicking" is barely noticeable once the printer is closed up and running so I don't really know why hp decided to place that pad there. It took me 4 hours to get the thing apart and back together as there is no other way to access the solenoid. The contact surface is large so it won't consume or dent the actuator in any way.
Kudos for the sticky/foamy pad on the actuator which saved me debug time and money!Leave a comment:
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