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  • Debs1964
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 1687

    [Error Code] SP 4510DN with SC899

    Hello, I'm still alive.
    I'm doing remote assist at the moment and I have a customer who has an SP 4510DN which throws an SC899 code most days. The firmware is fully up to date, IT have reloaded the print driver several times, and it is the latest, model specific, PCL driver, on a TCP/IP port. The customer does not print direct from web pages, and there doesn't appear to be any particular print job that causes the issue.
    This customer is quite happy resetting the device herself whenever this happens, and they are not allowed visitors on site during lockdown, so I said I would do some research to try to find a solution to this problem, either for their IT to do, or the engineer when we are allowed back on site.
    Thanks
    There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't
  • GIUBOSS
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 1331

    #2
    Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

    Originally posted by Debs1964
    Hello, I'm still alive.
    I'm doing remote assist at the moment and I have a customer who has an SP 4510DN which throws an SC899 code most days. The firmware is fully up to date, IT have reloaded the print driver several times, and it is the latest, model specific, PCL driver, on a TCP/IP port. The customer does not print direct from web pages, and there doesn't appear to be any particular print job that causes the issue.
    This customer is quite happy resetting the device herself whenever this happens, and they are not allowed visitors on site during lockdown, so I said I would do some research to try to find a solution to this problem, either for their IT to do, or the engineer when we are allowed back on site.
    Thanks
    try to use another ip address or to change network cable or to use it with the usb port a few days to rule out a connection problem, otherwise it could be the electronic board.

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    • TonerMunkeh
      Professional Moron

      2,500+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 3873

      #3
      Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

      Is it a 4510 equipped with a HDD? Could be the spool data is getting corrupted due to a duff drive or RAM.
      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

      Hit it.

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      • anothertech
        Service Manager

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        1,000+ Posts
        • Nov 2007
        • 1715

        #4
        Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

        Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
        Is it a 4510 equipped with a HDD? Could be the spool data is getting corrupted due to a duff drive or RAM.
        1+ Yeah I have seen SC899 on other models caused by a bad HDD.

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        • Debs1964
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Oct 2010
          • 1687

          #5
          Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

          Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
          Is it a 4510 equipped with a HDD? Could be the spool data is getting corrupted due to a duff drive or RAM.
          This is actually a really good call, unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a way of me seeing if it has the optional HDD, I have looked through the entire history to see if anyone has mentioned it in a comment. I may try to contact the account manager to see if this is the case. We won't be able to send anyone until after lockdown ends anyway, but I did tell the customer that I would do some research to see if I can find a potential cause. Luckily the customer is quite happy with resetting it every time the error occurs
          There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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          • Debs1964
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Oct 2010
            • 1687

            #6
            Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

            Originally posted by GIUBOSS
            try to use another ip address or to change network cable or to use it with the usb port a few days to rule out a connection problem, otherwise it could be the electronic board.
            Looking through the history of this device, the IP address has been changed in the past, they also have other devices on site which do not have the same issue, so I do think it is related to this printer.
            I'm not going to be attending this site, I've just been dealing with the customer over the phone as I'm on the help desk for the time being. I'm just trying to find a potential resolution for when an engineer is allowed back on site
            There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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            • copier tech
              Field Supervisor

              5,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2014
              • 7934

              #7
              Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

              How is Kent? Hopefully the truckers are getting though ok via Dover now.

              If you remote in you can view the WIM & see if the printer had the optional HDD installed?


              Every time i've had intermittent SC899 updating the firmware resolves the issue. But I see you have checked/updated firmware, I guess you updated it remotely since you can't attend site?

              I'm sure you would have checked this.

              Printer Version 1.14
              Symptom corrected:
              - When attempting to preview a large-size JPEG image from
              "Print/Scan (Memory Storage Device)", an SC899 error occurs.
              - When printing from AirPrint, the paper weight "Plain 2 (75 to 81g/square metre)"
              is out of the search target of "Auto Tray Select" even if
              "Plain Paper or Recycled Paper" is specified in the job.
              Last edited by copier tech; 01-06-2021, 07:41 PM.
              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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              • Debs1964
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2010
                • 1687

                #8
                Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                Originally posted by copier tech
                How is Kent? Hopefully the truckers are getting though ok via Dover now.

                If you remote in you can view the WIM & see if the printer had the optional HDD installed?


                Every time i've had intermittent SC899 updating the firmware resolves the issue. But I see you have checked/updated firmware, I guess you updated it remotely since you can't attend site?

                I'm sure you would have checked this.

                Printer Version 1.14
                Symptom corrected:
                - When attempting to preview a large-size JPEG image from
                "Print/Scan (Memory Storage Device)", an SC899 error occurs.
                - When printing from AirPrint, the paper weight "Plain 2 (75 to 81g/square metre)"
                is out of the search target of "Auto Tray Select" even if
                "Plain Paper or Recycled Paper" is specified in the job.
                I've pretty much been stuck indoors since the first lockdown, so the traffic hasn't affected me, also, I'm much closer to London than Dover, I have far more problems with the Dartford crossing.

                All I've done up to now if speak with the customer, but it had a call logged at the end of November for an engineer to attend as this is an ongoing issue, the engineer updated all firmware, and checked the driver, etc. on that visit, there has been no new firmware released since then.

                I wouldn't be able to remote onto the printer, but I may be able to remote onto one of their computers and view the WIM, there is only 2 people in the office at the moment, and the lady I've spoken to twice this week is very friendly. My gut feeling is that there is an HDD installed, and it's that causing the problems.
                At least this gives me something to point someone in the direction of next time they can go in, it makes me feel better that it doesn't just look like all we want to do is tell them to reboot, and then forget about them.
                There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                • marvin-vegan
                  Product specialst support
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 46

                  #9
                  SP 4510DN/4520DN Downloads | Ricoh Global

                  PCL5e this is the oldest core with the most compatible features vs oper.systems
                  PCL6 the newest core, new design of user layout. Some jobs may fail (1%) due to different processing
                  PS this is for colour copiers the most precise driver. For graphical studios. In B/W machines much of features will not be used. May be slower. But I would give a try.
                  Universal printer driver - should have most of features, but could cause troubles in some cases
                  Universal printer driver V4 - same as above, different core

                  This SC code is mostly caused by some element in printer job what the engine could not process. Could be even the font. So you can set the default option to print everything as raster (Bitmap). It is the switch in the printer features (driver).

                  And one last thing, I have in depository temporary firmware for these machines with description SC899 - when printing direct PDF files. So it is the PDF firmware for M1595762C, it is not officially released, so it is fully on your responsibility to upload it to machine, but worked for me.

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                  • slimslob
                    Retired

                    Site Contributor
                    25,000+ Posts
                    • May 2013
                    • 35067

                    #10
                    Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                    Originally posted by marvin-vegan
                    SC899 is always related to printer driver/network controller firmware.
                    Wrong. SC899 can also relate to the System/Copy firmware. Example MP C4500/C5500 SC899 may occur when the user selects "Startup Settings" inside the Extended Features screen in the WIM interface. Corrected by version 2.00.3; SC899 may occur if the operator interrupts a Copy job, changes the job settings, and then resumes the job. v2.01; SC899 occurs when the machine enters or recovers from Energy Saver mode, v2.11. Just to mention a few.

                    Scanner firmware - SC899 may occur when scanning to a External Memory Device through the Media Slot.

                    FAX firmware

                    NetworkDocBox

                    Network Support

                    This one has to do with print but required updating Network Support - When simultaneously printing from AppleTalk on a Mac and a protocol other than
                    AppleTalk in Windows, an SC899 error might occur.

                    Browser Firmware

                    And that was just from searching the 11/21/2013 firmware history for one model series before it got to the PCL firmware.

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                    • marvin-vegan
                      Product specialst support
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 46

                      #11
                      Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      Wrong. SC899 can also relate to the System/Copy firmware.
                      When I stated "SC899 is always related to printer driver/network controller firmware." I meant:

                      This error is related to: 1/ PRINTER DRIVER = means, if you change the printer driver as I said, for example from PCL6 to PCL5, error might vanish.

                      2/ network (firmware) - means some of the firmwares named "network support", "printers", and so.

                      3/ controler firmware - means the SYSTEM/COPY named firmware.

                      Do not be so harsh to correct others, sometimes it is just a different language right?

                      And because this model has no scanner (since it's printer) I did not mentioned the scanner firmware. But yes, in some cases, for example for MP C305SF the first firmwares that come out from vendor sometimes end up at SC899/SC819 when scanning at certain parametrs (duplex, JPEG, 300DPI,etc). Corrected by SYSTEM/COPY firmware again (even if caused by scanner app - since it's part of SYSTEM/COPY fw)

                      Above all, this SC can be often caused by faulty controller itself, faulty NVRAM or even DDRAM. If you use extended features = another possible cause of trouble. In my previous response I tried to say what is the most likely the cause of the problem as of my experience.

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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

                        Site Contributor
                        25,000+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 35067

                        #12
                        Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                        Originally posted by marvin-vegan
                        Do not be so harsh to correct others, sometimes it is just a different language right?
                        Do not be like a butt hurt liberal just because someone corrects you.

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                        • KenB
                          Geek Extraordinaire

                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Dec 2007
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                          #13
                          “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                          • Debs1964
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1687

                            #14
                            Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                            Originally posted by marvin-vegan
                            SP 4510DN/4520DN Downloads | Ricoh Global

                            PCL5e this is the oldest core with the most compatible features vs oper.systems
                            PCL6 the newest core, new design of user layout. Some jobs may fail (1%) due to different processing
                            PS this is for colour copiers the most precise driver. For graphical studios. In B/W machines much of features will not be used. May be slower. But I would give a try.
                            Universal printer driver - should have most of features, but could cause troubles in some cases
                            Universal printer driver V4 - same as above, different core

                            This SC code is mostly caused by some element in printer job what the engine could not process. Could be even the font. So you can set the default option to print everything as raster (Bitmap). It is the switch in the printer features (driver).

                            And one last thing, I have in depository temporary firmware for these machines with description SC899 - when printing direct PDF files. So it is the PDF firmware for M1595762C, it is not officially released, so it is fully on your responsibility to upload it to machine, but worked for me.
                            Hello fellow vegan

                            I won't be going into this customer as I am currently doing remote assist, and it is out of my area even if I went back into the field, but the firmware and driver have all been addressed by the technicians in that area. When I get a few minutes spare I will call this customer and explain how to print off a config sheet and check for the optional HDD, if there is one, then, once lockdown ends, and they are allowing visitors to site again, the technician who visits can try disconnecting the HDD to see if that resolves the issue.

                            And, please continue to be helpful, and ignore any rudeness
                            There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                            • Debs1964
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1687

                              #15
                              Re: SP 4510DN with SC899

                              That's not a bad call either, I just checked, Java is an option for this model, I haven't, personally, seen SC899 caused by Java, it's usually been SC997 in my experience, but I don't doubt that you've seen it. I don't believe they are using any software solution, but I will check. And I've just looked at when the latest Java firmware was released, about 2 weeks before this became an issue , and the last technician didn't update Java. Of course, that doesn't mean Java is installed, but we now have a good starting point.
                              There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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