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  • 32years
    Technician
    • Oct 2010
    • 11

    #1

    Recoated fuser rolls

    Looking for vendors who recoat hard fuser rolls. Currently using alden/broden, know of anyone else would like to hear from you. Thanks
  • azehnali
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Nov 2009
    • 679

    #2
    wow
    I didnt know they still existed
    are they doing xerox?

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22930

      #3
      I haven't seen a re-coated roller in years. The quality was inferior at best. I'd advise you to stay away from re-coated rollers.
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • mrwho
        Major Asshole!

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 4299

        #4
        I didn't even know that was possible at all. Maybe it's from before my time?
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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        • Simons
          Trusted Tech
          • Jun 2008
          • 490

          #5
          Trick Question? Katun does but like Blackcat said , who cares...they are not worth the trouble. maybe katun quit because no one would buy them?

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          • mojorolla
            The Wolf

            2,500+ Posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 2570

            #6
            The cost of rollers is so cheap these days, its almost silly to re-coat. And yes Alden Broaden is still around. They have a few video out there demonstrating this, most of them consist of a guy in a basement with a lathe, a spray guns full of epoxy, and a whole lot of patience. Ever notice that distinct smell of a fresh fuser roller...? I wonder what the re-coated ones smell like...
            Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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            • 32years
              Technician
              • Oct 2010
              • 11

              #7
              Lot of negative responce, but for anyone with an interest. I have used Alden-Broden for years on a steady basis. Started with Xerox 1090 soft fuser rolls and hard pressure rolls. Currently sending all Konica rolls from the smallest machines to 1050 hard rolls. Cost savings is tremendous and reliability varies, but I will say it is as good as OEM rolls. The reason for my original query, I would like to have more than one vendor. For those who don't like recoats I'm sure you have your reasons, if you never have, try one. It may be the best $20.00 you ever spent.

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              • Discountcopiers
                Technician
                • Jun 2011
                • 52

                #8
                I used to get the 1090 's done at Triple S Rubber Co
                Los Angeles, CA
                (760) 949-8200

                Not sure if they are in business still or moved from the area.?

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                • b3hammer

                  #9
                  Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                  MDSI will do recoats, depending on the item, mostly Xerox. However, they sell OEM that are price competitive, making it more financially attractive to go with new. There are some listings on Ebay under the store name of rainmooseplace. Search for Xerox DC12 and you will find contact info. Also, because of Xerox's decision on wide format, they are expanding that part of the business.

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                  • Scarecrow
                    Trusted Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    100+ Posts
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 234

                    #10
                    Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                    Anybody know who will recoat 123/128 roll? Two of the coaters I have used over the last almost 4 decades can't do them - too thin. One coater ruined them because stripping the coating on such a thin roll - at least the way they were doing it - callapsed the roll. They say coating is not the problem, removing it is. A thicker roll causes warm up problems. Setting 744-043 to 1 seems to have helped - but I wouldn't go setting up all your machines that have the thicker roll based on this discussion - I have tried this on only 20 machines. The mechanical relay, cleaning the center thermistor, and the mcu bd (bad solder joints) may have also helped. Having a model shop make the thinner rolls and then have them recoated is the next step I think. Any ideas? btw, 1090 recoats (where I was getting them) were marginal at best - loose hubs, bad rubber, out of round, etc.

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                    • TPHINC

                      #11
                      Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                      I have been having the fuser rollers for canon IR110's recoated for years and only recently ran into issues with the materials used for the recoating. They lasted as long as oem and a 1/4 the cost as new.
                      I am getting into a bind and need to find a cost efficient way of getting the rollers recoated or a source for new ones that are not $400 per fuser roller since I go through 20-30 per month and that cost would basically kill my business.
                      Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.
                      Thanks

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                      • Discountcopiers
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 52

                        #12
                        Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                        my vendor Triple sss rubber went out of business.

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                        • kyrenecopy
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 205

                          #13
                          Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                          NA trading, mostly good products but occasionally you get a bad one just like from the manufactures.. In fact Ricoh, Lanier have sent us "new" rollers that were actually NA rollers.
                          Testing 1-2-3, testing, testing. Is this thing on?

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                          • TPHINC

                            #14
                            Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                            I have looked into NA trading and pretty much every other parts supplier and they do not offer parts for the image runner 110 line of copiers and all the other branded same machines.

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                            • b3hammer

                              #15
                              Re: Recoated fuser rolls

                              Originally posted by TPHINC
                              I have been having the fuser rollers for canon IR110's recoated for years and only recently ran into issues with the materials used for the recoating. They lasted as long as oem and a 1/4 the cost as new.
                              I am getting into a bind and need to find a cost efficient way of getting the rollers recoated or a source for new ones that are not $400 per fuser roller since I go through 20-30 per month and that cost would basically kill my business.
                              Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.
                              Thanks

                              Hello,
                              I have been in the business of manufacturing development for functional elastomeric rollers for alot of years. Before that I was in R&D for polymer materials. I have investigated reclaim while at Xerox and concluded that, especially in the area of fusing, the cost savings does not justify it. The materials are under harsh conditions, heat, pressure, release, cycling, silicone oil, etc. Not good.
                              I have many OEM rollers for sale, including the Canon IR110/Kodak9110, both Fuser and Pressure. My supply is continuous. My normal cost on the Fuser is $285, but I am willing to negotiate with quantity purchase. FYI, the Pressure is $240. Besides, distributors, I have been selling to people like yourself. I am hesitant to give out a name without permission, and would expect that you would know who I am talking about, if I did. I will ask permission if that is important to you.
                              I would be gald to send you additional info if you contact me at MClary8110@aol.com. I am not sure if this site lets email go through, so I will write it out as MClary8110 at aol dot com.
                              By the way, I also carry Xerox OEM rollers, including wide format.
                              Mike

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