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  • FuserNoob
    Technician, CISSP

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    • Jul 2022
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    C364c locked out of Service and Web

    I have a KM C364e that we replaced with a newer model
    When i got it back to the shop i tried to run an initialize to wipe the machine
    I cannot access Service menu and when i try to access it from a browser it just times out.
    I can get to display keypad, but when i hit the 'start' button i get an error beep
    The client IT dept must have locket it out
    any thoughts?
    THANK YOU!
  • emujo2
    Service Manager

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    • Mar 2017
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    #2
    Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

    There may be a job stuck in the queue. There are only a few reasons you would not be able to access service mode..This and lack of the CE password are the only reasons I can think of, and if you can't access service mode via the control panel, why would you think the web page would work. The web page can be locked out in admin mode. Look for HTTP server enabled. E

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    • FuserNoob
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      #3
      Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

      Job list is clear
      There are 2 items in the 'needs attention' - 'preparing scan/fax' and 'preparing user box'
      the machine has been powered on and the last reboot was prior to the holiday weekend

      Rebooted machine again and after 15 minutes still waiting on 'preparing scan/fax' and 'preparing user box'

      there are no error messages, it just seems to be stuck on those two items

      Also, the 'network' option is missing in Admin mode (as are several other menu options)
      Last edited by FuserNoob; 11-29-2022, 07:17 PM. Reason: updated info

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      • blackcat4866
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        #4
        Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

        It sounds like the HDD is wiped or removed, but still Set. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • emujo2
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          #5
          Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

          You may also get something like this when the NIC is not pulling an IP address properly..Have you tried connecting it to a DHCP enabled network? Or, letting it come to ready with the ethernet cable disconnected?

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          • Synthohol
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            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

            you can boot into trouble reset mode and see if you can access service mode from there.
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • FuserNoob
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              #7
              Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

              OK..
              It's getting an IP address on our LAN
              I disconnected the Ethernet cable and rebooted - same issue, wont get past 'preparing scan/fax' and 'preparing user box'
              I did a power-on self diagnostic, here is the result:
              Check ALL
              DIMM R/W Check
              WORK0 OK
              WORK1 OK
              FILE0 OK
              FILE1 OK
              FILE2 OK
              FILE3 OK
              FILE4 OK
              FILE5 OK

              On Board Memory Check
              R/W Check OK
              Pattern Check OK

              SDD Check
              R/W Check OK
              Pattern Check OK

              HDD Check
              R/W Check OK
              Pattern Check OK

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              • JasonSBE
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                #8
                Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                in the first post you made you said you hit the "start" button. Not sure if this was a mistype or if you're hitting the wrong button. Power the machine off, hold down reset, and power it back on. Try to enter service mode from the trouble reset screen. You have to hit stop, not start.

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                • FuserNoob
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                  #9
                  Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                  Curse these fat fingers - yes, i meant 'stop'
                  I tried accessing the service menu through trouble reset screen - no dice

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                  • tsbservice
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                    #10
                    Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                    Originally posted by FuserNoob
                    Curse these fat fingers - yes, i meant 'stop'
                    I tried accessing the service menu through trouble reset screen - no dice
                    Why?
                    Do you see CE password screen or what?
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                    • FuserNoob
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                      #11
                      Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                      trouble reset screen shows, from left to right, 'AES', 'Trouble Reset' and the Keypad
                      i only get error beeps when i touch 'stop' or any key on the keypad

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                      • JasonSBE
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                        #12
                        Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                        Originally posted by FuserNoob
                        trouble reset screen shows, from left to right, 'AES', 'Trouble Reset' and the Keypad
                        i only get error beeps when i touch 'stop' or any key on the keypad

                        There is something else going on here. Either something with the touch screen is not registering or the calibration is off or something else.... you can change the password to access service mode but not the method.

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                        • femaster
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                          • May 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                          Originally posted by FuserNoob
                          trouble reset screen shows, from left to right, 'AES', 'Trouble Reset' and the Keypad
                          i only get error beeps when i touch 'stop' or any key on the keypad
                          Even if you get error beeps while on the trouble reset screen, go through the whole key sequence for service mode. You should then be prompted to enter the password. Enter that and you should get in.

                          You can only touch the service mode keys in sequence. If you press anything else before hand, or fat finger the sequence, you will need to start over by boot into the trouble reset screen again.
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                          • techsxge
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                            #14
                            Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                            Originally posted by femaster
                            Even if you get error beeps while on the trouble reset screen, go through the whole key sequence for service mode. You should then be prompted to enter the password. Enter that and you should get in.

                            You can only touch the service mode keys in sequence. If you press anything else before hand, or fat finger the sequence, you will need to start over by boot into the trouble reset screen again.
                            pressing the rset utton also works for re-entering it

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                            • femaster
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                              #15
                              Re: C364c locked out of Service and Web

                              Originally posted by techsxge
                              pressing the rset utton also works for re-entering it
                              Thanks for that. I must have never tried pressing reset.
                              I know I've fat-fingered the sequence on a couple of occasions and had to start over to get it to go once that happened.
                              A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                              My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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