Konica press 1250 jam 2101

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • jaredfmn
    Technician
    • Sep 2008
    • 25

    #1

    Konica press 1250 jam 2101

    We have several 1250 and 1200 machines in the field jamming with 2101 jam codes. I have gone through the trouble shooting guide with little luck. Tried new transfer unit and cleaning unit. Full pms on all the machines with new drums and developer. If anybody has any ideas I am open to suggestions. They have the latest and greatest firmware as well.
  • jaredfmn
    Technician
    • Sep 2008
    • 25

    #2
    Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

    Originally posted by jaredfmn
    We have several 1250 and 1200 machines in the field jamming with 2101 jam codes. I have gone through the trouble shooting guide with little luck. Tried new transfer unit and cleaning unit. Full pms on all the machines with new drums and developer. If anybody has any ideas I am open to suggestions. They have the latest and greatest firmware as well.
    Nobody???

    Comment

    • cycle66
      Technician
      • Jun 2014
      • 13

      #3
      Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

      Originally posted by jaredfmn
      Nobody???
      Have you looked at Konica's solution TAUS1001124EN?

      Comment

      • blaze2000
        Trusted Tech

        Site Contributor
        100+ Posts
        • Sep 2010
        • 232

        #4
        Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

        We are having that jam code on a new install as well. 58,000 clicks and 72 2101 jams. Information in bulletin 1124 didnt help. Including replacing jamb.

        Comment

        • antone
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Oct 2014
          • 344

          #5
          Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

          Try good paper 1051 1052 they all have this problem!!

          Comment

          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22942

            #6
            Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

            It just started on one of my 1052's. All paper sources are affected. The environment is 75F 44% humidity. The drum claws function normally and are recently replaced. The jammed paper frequently tries to follow the drum and flips over, entering the fuser upside-down. If you get the jammed page near the drum it statically adheres to the drum.

            I've come to the conclusion that we're losing separation voltage, and the paper is still statically attracted to the drum. I've tried a different transfer belt assembly, cleaned and greased contacts, DIPSW 51-1:1, 51-0:0, tried various transfer offset settings with no change. DIPSW 57-4 and 57-5 make no difference either way. We've got an HVT on order.

            Has anyone had any success fixing this? =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

            Comment

            • Synthohol
              Certified Konica Expert

              Site Contributor
              5,000+ Posts
              • Mar 2016
              • 5740

              #7
              Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

              in paper tray settings, choose separation priority and i have also moved the drum claw solenoid so the claws have less clearance for the paper to get stuck in.
              but yes, better paper will help tremendously.
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

              Comment

              • KM1Amsterdam
                Technician
                • Jun 2014
                • 36

                #8
                Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                Originally posted by Synthohol
                in paper tray settings, choose separation priority and i have also moved the drum claw solenoid so the claws have less clearance for the paper to get stuck in.
                but yes, better paper will help tremendously.

                Yes these two work the best. Check the drum claw solenoid in state confirmation, already had two dead ones.

                When replacing the drum claws clean the shaft en surroundings very thorough. Replace the springs.

                Comment

                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22942

                  #9
                  Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                  The drum claws are new and working properly. I'm disturbed that the jammed paper is not discharged. If the paper does not discharge, there's no way it can pass.

                  The HVT on the imaging drawer did not help. I also imported the machine settings from a year ago. At this stage it will not pass a single page of any type of paper. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

                  Comment

                  • andyf424
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 126

                    #10
                    Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                    I've got a 1250 doing this also, cleaned and rebuilt the separation claw assembly with new claws/springs, also set lead edge transfer to "value separation". Customer is running really flimsy paper and in portrait mode and it's a humid environment, basically a perfect storm. I've even slowed the speed down in process mode with no help.

                    Is it Friday yet?

                    Comment

                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5459

                      #11
                      Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                      Originally posted by andyf424
                      I've got a 1250 doing this also, cleaned and rebuilt the separation claw assembly with new claws/springs, also set lead edge transfer to "value separation". Customer is running really flimsy paper and in portrait mode and it's a humid environment, basically a perfect storm. I've even slowed the speed down in process mode with no help.

                      Is it Friday yet?
                      Could try an HT-505 on one of the PF trays. That should keep the paper dry
                      Funky paper should be used in tray 4 where the paper does not get stressed out too much.
                      Whatever

                      Comment

                      • andyf424
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 126

                        #12
                        Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                        When in doubt, try tray 4, still jams though. I flipped the drum claw spring on the end of the shaft that actuates the drum so the claws were up at all times but it still jams.

                        Comment

                        • allan
                          RTFM!!

                          5,000+ Posts
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 5459

                          #13
                          Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                          Where does the paper end-up?
                          Whatever

                          Comment

                          • MVPunisher
                            Trusted Tech

                            Site Contributor
                            100+ Posts
                            • May 2013
                            • 209

                            #14
                            Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                            I battled this exact issue with W.B. Mason paper on 2 951s right next to each other. Could barely get a copy out of either machine. I Read on here that this machine is very picky about what paper it likes. Brought a carton of Universal paper in and ran the entire carton between the 2 machines without 1 single jam. Just saying. The paper wasn't any heavier it was just another brand.

                            Comment

                            • andyf424
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 126

                              #15
                              Re: Konica press 1250 jam 2101

                              Originally posted by allan
                              Where does the paper end-up?
                              Stopped right at the drum, paper is trying to wrap around the drum but the claws are stopping but its still jamming. Took the customers paper and tried to run their job on our showroom 1250 with 20k on it, exact same jams. Then we tried running it on a c1085 with +15 k on and we still got jams at the secondary transfer. Paper paper paper.....

                              Comment

                              Working...