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  • keithxxiii
    Just a tech

    250+ Posts
    • Nov 2014
    • 468

    #1

    Error E86: No Valid Data

    Hello,

    We have these 50+ number of machines IM C2500/3500/3000 series all connected to a print management called MyQ.
    All of them were installed more than a year ago with their stock firmwares. Now, I wanted to upgrade the firmwares but on my first try of IM C2500, it gives me the error E86.
    I tried using both USB and SD Card to update the package. USB on the O-panel's side, and SD Card for both O-panel and controller side. Tried an older firmware as well but no luck.
    Moving on, i went to another device and still the same. I have checked if the Firmware update setting is prohibited but it is enabled. Tried the RFUT to schedule it but still a no go.
    I am afraid to update it thru @remote because i know in the middle if something happens it will definitely kill my controller board.
    Has anyone experienced the same issue? What fix have you done?
    THanks
    Aye! Cut the crap
  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3865

    #2
    Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

    Can you not just update it on the machine using the application site or SP mode? That way you can see it's not getting tampered with.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • dalewb74
      Service Manager

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      • Feb 2018
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      #3
      Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

      tried using a different SD?

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      • tjvincent
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Apr 2008
        • 280

        #4
        Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

        Try the SD card in the controller service slot.

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        • slimslob
          Retired

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          • May 2013
          • 36884

          #5
          Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

          Originally posted by tjvincent
          Try the SD card in the controller service slot.
          He said he tried that

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          • slimslob
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            • May 2013
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            #6
            Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

            Have you tried using RFU firmware through WIM?

            The MyQ has an application may be blocking updates if it is trying to manage memory device printing. It may have an imbedded update tool that has to be used.

            Try uninstalling it on one machine and see what happens.

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            • anothertech
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              • Nov 2007
              • 1756

              #7
              Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

              Do it through @remote. I do it every day, it works flawlessly. Also turn on auto firmware update SP5886-111 to 1

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              • copier tech
                Field Supervisor

                5,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2014
                • 8105

                #8
                Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                Originally posted by keithxxiii
                Hello,

                We have these 50+ number of machines IM C2500/3500/3000 series all connected to a print management called MyQ.
                All of them were installed more than a year ago with their stock firmwares. Now, I wanted to upgrade the firmwares but on my first try of IM C2500, it gives me the error E86.
                I tried using both USB and SD Card to update the package. USB on the O-panel's side, and SD Card for both O-panel and controller side. Tried an older firmware as well but no luck.
                Moving on, i went to another device and still the same. I have checked if the Firmware update setting is prohibited but it is enabled. Tried the RFUT to schedule it but still a no go.
                I am afraid to update it thru @remote because i know in the middle if something happens it will definitely kill my controller board.
                Has anyone experienced the same issue? What fix have you done?
                THanks
                Extract the .pkg file with a program like WinRar to a folder called romdata, copy this folder to your SD card & then update using this method. This will overwrite the temporary firmware currently installed.

                Last edited by copier tech; 10-25-2023, 08:56 PM.
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • keithxxiii
                  Just a tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 468

                  #9
                  Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  Have you tried using RFU firmware through WIM?

                  The MyQ has an application may be blocking updates if it is trying to manage memory device printing. It may have an imbedded update tool that has to be used.

                  Try uninstalling it on one machine and see what happens.
                  I need to try RFU thru WIM but then I have to upload 600+MB file to the printer. Knowing browsers now don't show the status of the progress while uploading, this might pose a challenge.
                  I also uninstalled MyQ btw, but still gives the same error.

                  For SD Card, I have tried different ones, 4GB, 8GB and 2GB. I even used the SD Formatter app to wipe everything just to make sure I am not missing anything on SD.

                  Now looking at the Service Manual for the SP Modes that were changed by MyQ while deploying it.
                  Aye! Cut the crap

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                  • keithxxiii
                    Just a tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 468

                    #10
                    Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    Extract the .pkg file with a program like WinRar to a folder called romdata, copy this folder to your SD card & then update using this method. This will overwrite the temporary firmware currently installed.

                    Thanks for this, I have it extracted and will test with the client.
                    Screenshot 2023-10-26 093525.jpg
                    Aye! Cut the crap

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                    • keithxxiii
                      Just a tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 468

                      #11
                      Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                      Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                      Can you not just update it on the machine using the application site or SP mode? That way you can see it's not getting tampered with.
                      Printer VLAN does not have internet connectivity. Only the @remote URLs are the ones permitted.
                      Aye! Cut the crap

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                      • anothertech
                        Service Manager

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                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1756

                        #12
                        Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                        Your SD card is too big. 1gb max. Either get a 1gb card of partition the 2gb to 1gb.

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                        • copier tech
                          Field Supervisor

                          5,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 8105

                          #13
                          Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                          Originally posted by anothertech
                          Your SD card is too big. 1gb max. Either get a 1gb card of partition the 2gb to 1gb.

                          Wrong, the METIS will accept max 4GB SD card.
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                          • slimslob
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                            #14
                            Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                            Originally posted by copier tech

                            Wrong, the METIS will accept max 4GB SD card.
                            But not all 4GB cards are the same.

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                            • anothertech
                              Service Manager

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                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1756

                              #15
                              Re: Error E86: No Valid Data

                              Originally posted by copier tech

                              Wrong, the METIS will accept max 4GB SD card.
                              I can only say, when my 2gb card wouldn't work, I partitioned it to 1gb, then it worked.

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