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  • Popolopo
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    • May 2023
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    Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

    Something like image attached. *not the same machine but same problem, you got the point.

    Try lower temperature, turn on decurl. Didn't help much.
    Any help?
    Attached Files
  • copyaction
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    • Oct 2007
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    #2
    Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

    Originally posted by Popolopo
    Something like image attached. *not the same machine but same problem, you got the point.

    Try lower temperature, turn on decurl. Didn't help much.
    Any help?
    I have had a couple of lease returns of these series that I removed the finisher from and it would do this.
    Apparently when a finisher is installed it uses a different set of exit rollers.
    Possible that is what you are experiencing?

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    • Popolopo
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      • May 2023
      • 69

      #3
      Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

      Originally posted by copyaction
      I have had a couple of lease returns of these series that I removed the finisher from and it would do this.
      Apparently when a finisher is installed it uses a different set of exit rollers.
      Possible that is what you are experiencing?
      Could you share picture of those exit roller? Which one is the finisher version, version the normal one.

      I know MPCxx04 have that kind exit roller. Didn't notice for MPCxx03

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
        • 34940

        #4
        Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

        Originally posted by copyaction
        I have had a couple of lease returns of these series that I removed the finisher from and it would do this.
        Apparently when a finisher is installed it uses a different set of exit rollers.
        Possible that is what you are experiencing?
        For the internal finisher the paper enters the finisher through what is the duplex turn around roller for operation with no finisher. On one of the first models to have an internal finisher I had to replace the sensor. The Ricoh help desk said they were getting a lot of calls for that sensor. They gave me a different part number to order. Apparently the turn around sensor didn't have as tight a Hysteresis factor and didn't respond as fast as the original exit sensor.

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        • Gift
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          • Mar 2011
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          #5
          Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

          Try open and test a fresh realm of paper from your own stock. This looks like an issue with paper quality or room/enviroment climatic conditions (leading to damp paper).

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          • Codex
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • May 2008
            • 672

            #6
            Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

            Had same problem

            Try fresh realm of paper. I know the 04 color series have modified exit rollers D241 4950
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            • luca72
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              • Oct 2017
              • 1511

              #7
              Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

              Originally posted by Popolopo
              Something like image attached. *not the same machine but same problem, you got the point.

              Try lower temperature, turn on decurl. Didn't help much.
              Any help?
              the exit roller must have the shape in the photo, if straight ones are not good, they are for the finisher, and cause that problem.
              Attached Files
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              • Saturn
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                • Nov 2023
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                #8
                Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                If you turn the paper upside down, do you have the same problem? What happed if you try SEF feed? Or as Gift and Codex suggested, try fresh paper.
                I don't care about who your father is, as long as I'm fishing here, you won't walk on water.

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                • copyaction
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                  #9
                  Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                  Originally posted by luca72
                  the exit roller must have the shape in the photo, if straight ones are not good, they are for the finisher, and cause that problem.
                  This.

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                  • havokprod
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                    #10
                    Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    Hysteresis factor
                    You made me look up what that word meant LOL thank you!!

                    • the phenomenon in which the value of a physical property lags behind changes in the effect causing it, as for instance when magnetic induction lags behind the magnetizing force.




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                    • slimslob
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                      #11
                      Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                      Originally posted by havokprod
                      You made me look up what that word meant LOL thank you!!

                      • the phenomenon in which the value of a physical property lags behind changes in the effect causing it, as for instance when magnetic induction lags behind the magnetizing force.
                      Or optical sensors lag behind changes in light levels

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                      • DRichard
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                        #12
                        Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        For the internal finisher the paper enters the finisher through what is the duplex turn around roller for operation with no finisher. On one of the first models to have an internal finisher I had to replace the sensor. The Ricoh help desk said they were getting a lot of calls for that sensor. They gave me a different part number to order. Apparently the turn around sensor didn't have as tight a Hysteresis factor and didn't respond as fast as the original exit sensor.
                        My second wife had a Hysteresis...didn't improve her moods one bit...
                        "Enjoy every sandwich."

                        -- Warren Zevon

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                        • dalewb74
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                          • Feb 2018
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                          #13
                          Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                          as shown in the photo. you need the fat rollers, not the skinny ones. whenever a finisher is installed, we generally throw out the skinny ones. guess i should probably hang onto one set just in case.

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                          • UNICORNico
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                            • May 2018
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                            #14
                            Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                            Originally posted by Popolopo
                            Something like image attached. *not the same machine but same problem, you got the point.

                            Try lower temperature, turn on decurl. Didn't help much.
                            Any help?
                            It could also be a case of paper with moisture.
                            I would try a different A4 package.
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                            • Xandy_73
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2023
                              • 29

                              #15
                              Re: Paper curl at exit for MPCxx03 and MPxx54

                              This may occur due to the following situations.


                              Wet paper
                              Paper quality
                              So it was cut on the reel at the factory.

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