The War in Ukraine

[slimslob]

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"Russian Warship: Go Fuck Yourself!"

Ukraine, in a great propaganda move, made a postage stamp from it. Said Russian Warship, sunk to the bottom of the Black Sea the other day!

[Phil B.]

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Moskva warship was sank by Ukrainian Neptune missiles - TheBlaze

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[Phil B.]

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Putin's Anti-NATO Plot Backfires...BIG TIME! - Red Right Patriot

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[bsm2]

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On 14th April 2022, Ukrainian officials and the US Department of Defense stated that Moskva was attacked by two Ukrainian anti-ship missiles called Neptune. The Russian Navy tried to save the ship, but they couldn't, and the ship sank with more than 400 members of the ship crew.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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On 14th April 2022, Ukrainian officials and the US Department of Defense stated that Moskva was attacked by two Ukrainian anti-ship missiles called Neptune. The Russian Navy tried to save the ship, but they couldn't, and the ship sank with more than 400 members of the ship crew.

... the Russian Ministry of Defense has shared an image that at least half of the crew (240 sailors including the Captain) have been pictured alive and on parade at their military base in Sevastapol.

Sinking of the Moskva: Damage Assessment - YouTube

[alex23845]

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https://youtu.be/rNizGwjZbo0

[Drivee]

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That is largest black sea ship. He have very good defense against missales and subamrines. It is not posibile that Ukrains sink a ship. That is just story for kids that they go and figt with Russian more and more and that they die on the end. Just propaganda..
Acording to Russians, there was explosion in ammo room.

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[anothertech]

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That is largest black sea ship. He have very good defense against missales and subamrines. It is not posibile that Ukrains sink a ship. That is just story for kids that they go and figt with Russian more and more and that they die on the end. Just propaganda..
Acording to Russians, there was explosion in ammo room.

Yes the Russians are probably correct, explosion in the ammo room. Now, how do you suppose that happened? Maybe by the Ukrainian missiles that hit the ship?

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Large-scale NATO cyber drill begins as Russian hacking threats loom


NATO’s annual large-scale drill for cyberattacks began Tuesday, with participants from 32 countries practicing fending off hacks against critical infrastructure like power plants and air defense systems.

The exercise mirrors “real life attack scenarios based on cyber-attacks seen over the past 30 years,” Ian West, chief of the NATO Cyber Security Centre, told CNN in an email.

The mock hacking incident will charge participants with “maintaining and ensuring the availability of essential capabilities such as a water plant, power plant, air defence system, financial systems, etc.”

Nearly 2,000 participants from 32 countries will participate in cyber defense exercise known as Locked Shields, according to the US-based Financial Services Information Sharing and Analysis Center, a threat-sharing hub for big banks that is leading a portion of the drill.

The drill was planned months in advance and does not directly incorporate cyber threats stemming from Russia’s war in Ukraine, West said. But the war, and suspected Russian and Belarusian cyber activity tied to it, is impossible to ignore.

More background:

As Russia’s invasion began in late February, suspected Belarusian hackers attempted to breach the email accounts of European government officials “involved in managing the logistics of refugees fleeing Ukraine,” according to cybersecurity firm Proofpoint, which discovered the incident.

Around that time, unidentified attackers targeted Ukrainian government contractors with a presence in Latvia and Lithuania, two NATO members, with malicious code that wiped computer systems, according to researchers at Broadcom Software.

Locked Shields, which debuted in 2010 and is run out of NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence (CCDCOE) in Estonia, reflects the alliance’s increasing emphasis on cyberspace as a domain of multilateral defense.

Though Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent it from one day joining NATO, the bloc’s Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence voted days after Russia’s invasion to admit Ukraine as a “contributing participant” to the cybersecurity research and training hub.

“Ukraine could bring valuable first-hand knowledge of several adversaries within the cyber domain to be used for research, exercises and training,” said Col Jaak Tarien, CCDCOE’s director, in a apparent nod to years of Russian cyberattacks aimed at Ukraine.

[Drivee]

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Yes the Russians are probably correct, explosion in the ammo room. Now, how do you suppose that happened? Maybe by the Ukrainian missiles that hit the ship?

I dont belive that old missale can reach to best Russian ship. He have anty misale system, anty air and anty submarine. How is happend..well sh..t happend soemtime.
It is just propaganda. West in war with Russia and poor Ukranians are colletar waste. I wonder where this world going.

[slimslob]

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I dont belive that old missale can reach to best Russian ship. He have anty misale system, anty air and anty submarine. How is happend..well sh..t happend soemtime.
It is just propaganda. West in war with Russia and poor Ukranians are colletar waste. I wonder where this world going.

It wasn't an "old missile." It was a current top of the line anti tank missile fired from a distance that was far too short for the obsolete Russian Soviet anti missile system to have the time needed to detect, acquire, track and intercept.

[Drivee]

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The Ukraine state that they use R-360 Neptune.

According to naval expert Jonathan Bentham of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, Moscow had one of the strongest defense systems.


The cruiser was equipped with a three-stage anti-aircraft system which, if it worked, should have given it three options to defend itself from attacks by Neptune rockets.


In addition to defending medium-range and short-range weapons, it was able to use six short-range weapons systems (CIWS) as a last resort.





Bentham said that Moscow should have a 360-degree air defense coverage.


"The CIWS system can fire 5,000 bullets per minute, essentially creating a wall of bullets around the cruiser, its last line of defense," Bentham said.

Now, where is boat, where Russia sink that biggest boat???

Elementary ignorance.
As early as 1792, it was dug up, the so-called The old canal so that ships could reach Nikolaev and Odessa. And in 1934-39 the canal was deepened and widened to 135m. The Russians sank the longest ship they had (it was already intended for scrap iron) and captured the most modern NATO ships and submarines in these two ports. These are practically unusable ports. With three hundred million, they captured $ 8 billion. Just ingenious. Nikolaev and Odessa have catacombs as well as Mariupol, but you will not help them

[Gift]

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I assume it's easy to find out if the damage in the ship was originated from the inner or outer side - ju just need to check out the hull damage. If you shoot something through a metal plate even a 5 year old kid should be able to figure out the entrance and exit side. One party was closer on the site during the recovery/towing attempt but none close-range picture/videos has been published to underline a theory (well, nothing in decent quality). At the end of the day it's not really todays top priority to figure out how this ship became a submarine lol

[Drivee]

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Ond the end. It is a war... everybady need to lose something.