Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[archstructure]

minolta cf3012. labor hours, but no copies.

[tinfox]

Toshiba 5620
Ricoh 1232
Any Konica from the 80's

[Ducttape n Glue]

I started copiers in 1974 and have seen so much crap sold as copiers I have lost track.
Who remembers constant VR adjustments, corona height adjustments, alligator skin copies, Saturday toner tank cleanings, cleaning the walls of the customers exit area of kerosene black residue, cleaning the floors of toner dispersant spills, cleaning...constant cleaning of the copiers, apologizing for burnt copies and destroyed originals, apologizing for ruined carpets and clothing, apologizing for the stupid copier the salesman sold them.
Forget about mimeographs and spirit duplicators, worked on those too.
KIP, Saxon, Savin, Oce, 3M, Sharp, Olivetti, Olympia, AB Dick, Nashua, Royal, Thermofax, Ricoh, IBM,Konica, T/A, A/R, Canon, names I forget, everyone and their grandmother started to manufacture and/or sell low end copiers, then high end copiers.
I think it was 1975 when Xerox owned the copier world and then lost their patents to an anti-trust lawsuit and that is when all the Japanese companies jumped in with 2 feet.
And the world changed. Fun stuff and would do it again.

[morgansterne]

I'm surprised to hear anyone mention the ricoh 2045 in this thread . . . I've done hundreds of calls on those, and I prefer them to the MP4000/Mp5000 to say the least. I've never had to bury a 2045 yet. Give it another few years and I will, I'm sure.

[D_L_P]

I'll second that. I thought the MP4500 was bad but they made it worse with that stupid plank of a door and arcane fuser web.

My vote has to go for the 2408c (B052) color copier, but I hate all Ricoh's in general under 45ppm. I have one that has just over 100k and I have probably replaced more sh*t on that copier then a Canon with 6 mil.

[copierpro]

Bar none that would be the Sharp SF900 what a POS. SF9600 gets runner-up.

[vandezo]

how about aficio 2045 in this year?????????????

[mrwho]

how about aficio 2045 in this year?????????????

Oh man, don't get me started with those...

[BigBob]

konica c6500

[canonclc]

panosonic workio 2500 has got to be up there,we used to call them brokios.also the canon ir6800c range error after error after error piece of crap

[collme]

toshiba BD1550 is in my top 5

[richnokes]

E-studio 3511

You haven't lived until you've replaced a snapped black toner auger on this Toshiba POS. This is by far the biggest lemon I've ever seen. 30 minutes just to get all the crap out of the way to get the drum unit out!

[merrick]

After working on Canon, Ricoh, Panasonic, Toshiba, Oki and Kyocera.... I will say quite loudly that i HATE with a loathing passion anything Toshiba E-Studio.
And yes just like the poster above me the 3511 is a huge cornfilled standout among the turds it took me close to 3 hours elbow deep in non gen toner to get to that auger. and thats not including reassembly

[Philcampbell]

Decimo copyrite

Having started working on copiers nearly 30 years ago i have come across some real dogs, and reading through some of the pages of threads it has brought back some nightmare machines.

But one copier i had the miss fortune to work on in my early days was the DECIMO COPYRITE, now i guess a lot of you would never have heard of this copier let me tell you a little about this pile.
It was plain paper, B4 max copy size, cold pressure fusing, single toner conponent, moving platen, about 10cpm. Now some of its design faults were;
A selenium drum (which was poisonous) that would go patchy and need cleaning or replacing often, a toner system with a brass doctor blade with a gap so small bits of paper dust or lumpy toner would get trapped between the doc blade and mag roller and give you white lines, you would attend a call for white line vac out the whole toner hopper maybe sieve the toner or replace with fresh toner, walk out the door and the problem would come back and you would have to start again.
what fun those days were. NOT

[HenryT2]

It was plain paper, B4 max copy size, cold pressure fusing, single toner conponent, moving platen, about 10cpm.

Do you remember this kind of call on those copiers......." THIS IS A NEW COPIER. WHY IS IT MAKING THAT KNOCKING NOISE WHEN I MAKE A COPY? "

You drive a hour, and look at the copier...NO PROBLEM FOUND. Hunt down the lady that called, take her to the copier and show her it is OK. Then she shows you what she wants to print !

A nice, neat, form with big, bold, lines down the entire sheet...

You try not to laugh when she tells you that the other copier ( liquid ) did not make that sound printing her form. Then you try to explain that the fuser rollers are under pressure, and they are compressing the toner into the paper, and that as the rollers press that line of toner into the paper, the rollers are just banging together. Then you show them the difference between portrait and landscape.

YEP...Those were the good ole days.