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  • msiudy
    Technician
    • Jan 2011
    • 47

    #91
    Charm, may I ask why you shouldn't use the various drivers on non or fiery machines? Myself and two others that I know locally use both drivers, based on desired output.

    Sometimes a job just doesn't look right, and printing from the regular c3200 driver looks better, or vice-versa, where printing through the fiery looks better.

    Is it possible that when we switch back to the regular printer/driver, that we've bypassed the fiery device and gone direct? If not, then what you're saying makes sense. But if we're bypassing the fiery, does it matter?

    As an example, in the previous posts you'll see where I couldn't get a full page of print using the regular driver. I used the Fiery driver on a machine where there was no fiery, and yes, the print needs some color correction, it's very heavy and dark. Is that what you're getting at? Using the regular driver the print looked better, at lest the parts of it that were there...

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    • msiudy
      Technician
      • Jan 2011
      • 47

      #92
      So I'm really not done with my "simple" questions... When I look at my Operating System it doesn't tell me if it's 32 or 64. I assume 64, but how can you find that little tidbit? It's Xp Service Pack 3.

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      • teckat
        Field Supervisor

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2010
        • 16083

        #93
        1. Click Start, then click on Run or Start Search.
        2. Type msinfo32.exe and then press Enter key.
        3. In “System Information”, review the value for the System Type item:
          • For 32-bit editions of Windows, the value of the System Type item is x86-based PC.
          • For 64-bit editions of Windows, the value of the System Type item is x64-based PC.

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        • mrfixit51
          Lead Service Technician

          1,000+ Posts
          • Oct 2008
          • 1975

          #94
          Originally posted by msiudy
          Is it possible that when we switch back to the regular printer/driver, that we've bypassed the fiery device and gone direct? ...
          No, you are not bypassing the fiery to print directly to the copier, it is not possible, as the needed hardware to print without a fiery is not present...
          "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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          • msiudy
            Technician
            • Jan 2011
            • 47

            #95
            This is a curiosity question. I have two machines with Fiery units on them. I also have each set to print using the Fiery OR the regular driver. Sometimes a job will look better through the regular driver instead of the Fiery. But if I understand what you are saying, even using the regular driver, the copier processes through the Fiery? If that's the case, why is the image so dramatically different from one to the other?

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            • teckat
              Field Supervisor

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2010
              • 16083

              #96
              Also Remember,
              the Color Calibration u do through the Fiery Print tab using the Kodak Grey Scale,

              and the Calibration u perform through Auto-Cal are two different puppies.
              You can also do a Color Calibration set up for Heavy Paper in Bypass tray to stay in memory when that tray is used


              This is a Good read Color IR Quick Ref.Guide- + it has all operations explained.

              Color IR Quick Ref Guide 2009.pdf
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              • msiudy
                Technician
                • Jan 2011
                • 47

                #97
                Thanks teckat, great document to have, much appreciated.

                How do I remove a mail box password? Mail box "0" is password protected.

                I read somehwere, and tried going into service mode and did the PWD-CLR (password clear), but that might be for the system manager since it didn't remove the mail box password.

                Thanks again.

                BTW, I ran that job on the 12x18 this morning. At copy 6-7 it started streaking and displacing color on the op side of the sheet. I had to get the job out so I ran 5 copies at a time, all looked good. As I was reloading paper I added 2-3 more sheets each time. After a while it would run 30-40 with no issues at all.... go figure. What ever it was it cleared itself up after running a while. This machine had sat for months and months before I bought it and I'm just wondering if it just needed some love and some running time to get working right and temp acclimated so everything aligns properly. That's my guess, hope I'm right!

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                • Canuck
                  Tech Specialist

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1713

                  #98
                  Hey TOOL,I'm not done with you
                  Do not believe this guy. He is a scammer. Reasons:
                  Machine will not pass ATR,SALT-DHalf,SALT-Dmax image stabilization with black drum in color position.You can turn off Pascal and everything you can in service mode but you cannot stop the machine from looking at ATR density patches on ITB. You cannot get the machine to do your stated 75 black prints to deplete the black toner. It will error out E-020,XXOB...depends on color you tried to trick. Even if you cheat the interlocks and have it do image stabilization with a proper drum in it and then change the drum,as soon as you copy or send a print the machine will error out. WE TRIED IT ON 2 DIFFERENT 3200 machines and always got same result...E-020 errors. You cant fool the machine. The machine is looking for a color patch on the ITB and it sees black. Black absorbs a lot more light than color. THE MACHINE WILL ERROR. Try it for yourself techs. I'll take you up on that 10,000 dollar offer.WE TRIED IT. IT DOES NOT WORK. You might be able to BS some end users or techs that are not familiar with what the machine does during image stabilization,but you cant fool everybody. Like I said. you are a TOOL.Don't believe a word this crook says.

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                  • florintoni
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 38

                    #99
                    This guy is selling a bear's fur from the wood. He may be a Houdini or something. Why don't you patent your big invention ? after that you will be sure i'll be your first buyer. Story with Snow-white.

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                    • msiudy
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 47

                      #100
                      Hi Canuck, nice to hear from you. even though you're trying to rip me a new one.

                      Sorry you're so down on me and my idea. It does work. I've been doing this for 10 months plus, no problems.

                      You are certainly much more educated than I am in the tech aspect of these machines, no doubt. But this does work and I've gotten no such errors of which you speak. Theoretically, you are probably right. The machine should kick up error codes, but mine do not, and I have three of them running this way.

                      "Crook"? Geez man, that's pretty harsh. Why are you so down on me? Is it because I called you out, in private I might add, about you calling me names and making accusations? Did you expect a different response?

                      While I appreciate your knowledge and expertise in the area of these machines, I have a question... Is it possible, even remotely, that this works? I already know the answer, it's yes. I just want to see if you're a sincere and level headed guy.

                      You can attack me, that's fine, and actually pretty funny. After all, you're the guy railing against something that several hundred people are already doing successfully. Which you say doesn't work...

                      Now, you've stated "Hey TOOL,I'm not done with you", but I am certainly done wasting my time with you. If you would like to add something constructive to the discussion, please do. If you simply want to attack someone with an idea, shut the f up would you?

                      Check this out. Teckat and I disagreed on this also. But he was kind enough, and adult enough, that we could discuss it and close the issue. And to his credit, Teckat has been very helpful to me, which I greatly and sincerely appreciate.

                      You on the other hand, want to continue to attack me. WTF? Grow up or grow a pair would you? Come on man, is it snowing so much in Canada that you're that miserable?

                      If you tried this on two different machines and they both went south on you, could it be that maybe they need a new tech? Ha! (That was a "just for fun" dig)

                      Really, I got involved in this forum because I stumbled upon the rants against my idea. But now that I'm here, I've found that most of these guys are really helpful and it's a good resource. If you'd like to join in, please do. If you want to continue to attack me, please take a nap and let us know when the ice pack thaws to the point where it no longer affects your thought process.

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                      • msiudy
                        Technician
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 47

                        #101
                        Okay, for the bet, we'll meet in a neutral site, like Mexico (they know that SALT is for the rim of a shot of Tequila), and we'll plunk down our cash. Winner take all. Ha! (Sometimes I just crack me up)

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                        • msiudy
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 47

                          #102
                          Florintini? Or whatever you call yourself.... 10 posts? You're an expert? Please. Sit down and learn something before you go flapping your gums. You guys should take notes from Teckat, he's sincere and is willing to help others.

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                          • florintoni
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 38

                            #103
                            expert

                            Originally posted by msiudy
                            Florintini? Or whatever you call yourself.... 10 posts? You're an expert? Please. Sit down and learn something before you go flapping your gums. You guys should take notes from Teckat, he's sincere and is willing to help others.

                            I'm not considering myself an expert but i have some experience in the field so as i can tell you that in 10 years i've made many tricks with drums in almost all range of models. Rarely happened to go well. (error codes, background, spilled toner etc). I wish you good lock msiudy.

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                            • florintoni
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 38

                              #104
                              Originally posted by msiudy
                              Florintini? Or whatever you call yourself.... 10 posts? You're an expert? Please. Sit down and learn something before you go flapping your gums. You guys should take notes from Teckat, he's sincere and is willing to help others.
                              By the way. Why did you take my answer so personal. It had hasn't an adress. are you involved in the "big bussiness" ?

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                              • teckat
                                Field Supervisor

                                Site Contributor
                                10,000+ Posts
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 16083

                                #105
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