Heat rollers are always better than filim units..............

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  • bineeshgeorge
    Trusted Tech
    100+ Posts
    • Jul 2009
    • 107

    Heat rollers are always better than filim units..............

    Hai friends ,

    What is your openion about the topic?................... are you agree.............

    please share your experiences and tips in these two models .................
  • teckat
    Field Supervisor
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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16092

    #2
    Originally posted by bineeshgeorge
    Hai friends ,

    What is your openion about the topic?................... are you agree.............

    please share your experiences and tips in these two models .................
    this is not a survey FORUM/

    Heat Rollers are always better/ u just need to follow the machines standards for copying/printing . go over that and u will have issues with both.
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious
      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22588

      #3
      I had my doubts in the beginning. How could that thin film hold up as well as a teflon coated roller? Well, to my surprise, they do seem to hold up well. The fixing film is less tolerant of pressure roller wear, bearing wear, requires the right lubrication....

      I remember when the Canon first put a film fuser in a 16 cpm analog copier, the NP-6016. We had all kinds of trouble with toner buildup on the film surface. Some of that could have had something to do with the "Copy Technologies" crappy aftermarket toner in use at the time. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • SCREWTAPE
        East Coast Imaging
        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 3396

        #4
        There both good.

        That's my opinion.
        Canon Copier Repair Service. Sales, Parts & Toner. NYC/NJ area. Contact:East Coast Imaging Solutions,LLC

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        • blazebusiness
          SanDiegoCopierRepair.com
          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 1246

          #5
          Film units - volume wise will never go as long as rollers...but they are both good technologies.Just made for different volume and speed applications. The instant on of film is nice (canon's R.A.P.I.D. fixing technology) but the newer fusers with inductive coil heating warm up very quickly also.
          sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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          • Brian8506
            Service Manager
            Site Contributor
            1,000+ Posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 1614

            #6
            I prefer heat rollers. However customers have become accustomed to having their copier ready almost instantly, even the higher page per minute machines. It would be tough to get them to accept 5-8 minute warmups again.

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            • KenB
              Geek Extraordinaire
              2,500+ Posts
              • Dec 2007
              • 3946

              #7
              Fuser films virtually eliminate the nasty issues you get from using crappy aftermarket fuser rollers, which some dealers insist on using.
              “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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              • android790
                Technician
                50+ Posts
                • Jul 2010
                • 63

                #8
                If the fixing unit itself has no flaws, I got to lean toward the film. It kills me to say it, because like others, I remember the tracking problems,nightmare replacement,etc, of the early models. The new stuff...easy to install,and lasts.
                Yes, I am here to fix your machine. No, your machine went out of warranty 18 years ago.

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                • Paul 75
                  Technician
                  50+ Posts
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 97

                  #9
                  I find that if you replace the metal cleaner roller before its spec'd life, fixing films seem to last a long time 250-300K
                  Oh...... I can't copy at the moment then ? !!!!!!

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                  • teckat
                    Field Supervisor
                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 16092

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paul 75
                    I find that if you replace the metal cleaner roller before its spec'd life, fixing films seem to last a long time 250-300K
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                    good point, very cost effective
                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • CanonSco
                      Man About Town
                      250+ Posts
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 368

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teckat
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                      good point, very cost effective
                      Now if I could just beat this point into the thick skulls of some of my tech's. With a heatsink roller preferably.
                      Yes, I am a nerd.
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