IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

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  • manya
    Technician
    • Jan 2011
    • 11

    #1

    [Error Code] IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

    Canon IR C6800CN, prints evenly closely spaced black stripes in the direction the paper exits the printer (1mm black/white stripes horizontal to long side of A4 paper / stripes vertical to short side of A4 paper). The prints are the same whether there is a paper on the copier glass or there isn't a paper placed on the glass, same applies when trying to print using the network connection. The following errors E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190 are generated intermittently and the main power needs to be cycled. I have performed a drum phase adjustment in service mode as it was requesting "Check Drum Phase", prior to adjusting drum phase copies were blurred with black/white stripes, now copies have only black stripes. When performing test print MCYBk Horizontal Stripes (TYPE=10) using service mode in colour, print outs have Red, Blue, Yellow, Black (12mm stripes horizontal to long side of A4 paper / stripes vertical to short side of A4 paper) and grainy with all colours having a tint of black. When test print - 16-Gradation (TYPE=4) image is overlapped with black stripes. The pressure roller seems to be wearing out as I found a lot of red silicon shavings which I cleaned, the shaving seem to be from one end of the lower pressure roller and the unit housing the fuser gets very hot, compared to when it was in the UK. Currently looking to source new pressure roller and fixing roller. The machine is currently in Sri Lanka, not sure if there needs to be temperature adjustments (humidity switch, etc). The A-Si drum has completed just over 250000 copies and the service manual states it has a life of 500000. Please advise if there is more to it than replacing fuser parts which I am looking to source. Please advise where the problem could be. Local Canon dealer in Sri Lanka is not interested, as they didn't sell the machine. I have no problem taking it apart as I have cleaned the primary charging wires in the past.
    Last edited by manya; 01-17-2011, 01:19 AM.
  • Canuck
    Tech Specialist

    1,000+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 1713

    #2
    Clean the connector strips of the sub boards(horizontal) in the main controller cage with fine sandpaper and alcohol and re-install them. Reseat connectors on Main Controller and DC Controller.

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    • manya
      Technician
      • Jan 2011
      • 11

      #3
      Thank you will try what you suggested
      Attached Files

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      • teckat
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        • Jan 2010
        • 16083

        #4
        Bad Memory
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        • manya
          Technician
          • Jan 2011
          • 11

          #5
          Teckat, can you please advise what you mean by bad memory (SODIMM, DDR) and how I can fix this.

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          • teckat
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            • Jan 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by manya
            Teckat, can you please advise what you mean by bad memory (SODIMM, DDR) and how I can fix this.
            dimm.JPG

            Also check your
            PRIMARY CORONA ASSEMBLY
            for ARCHING
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            • teckat
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              • Jan 2010
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              #7
              Make sure your Firmware is at v16.03a- it addresses some xtra E747 issues

              Board cleaning/ and positions check for E747 Issues

              BD.JPG
              BD1.JPG
              Clean the terminals (both front and back) of the Sub PCB using a lint-free cloth, lightly impregnated with alcohol. Be sure not to damage any of the terminals. If damage occurs, replace the Sub PCB in Question.

              After the alcohol has dried completely, hold the Sub PCB firmly and slowly insert it approximately halfway.
              You can see this by looking at the mounting holes of the PCB. The mounting holes will be to the
              left of the cage frame.
              BD2.JPG
              After the PCB is mounted half-way, place the mounting screws loosely in place (approximately 1mm between screw and frame).
              BD3.JPG
              Measure between Sub PCB’s. As each PCI slot is lined up, the measurement from one Sub PCB to the next should be equal.
              BD4.JPG
              When measuring, do not use the upper PCB of the PDRM-EF-A PCB assembly.
              Measure the lower PCB as it is connected to the PCI slot.

              If all Sub PCB’s are equally distanced, press the Sub PCB into a full mounted position, and then tighten the screw nearest you first.
              BD5.JPG
              Then tighten the screw nearest the frame second.
              BD6.JPG
              Re-measure and confirm the distance from one Sub PCB to the next.
              Once confirmed, re-assemble the Main Controller Cage Assembly Cover and Rear Cover.
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              • manya
                Technician
                • Jan 2011
                • 11

                #8
                Teckat, thank you for the brilliant description, will do this. How can I check the firmware and update it if necessary to v16.03a. I understand I will need a Canon Service Support Tool to perform a firmware update, which I don't have. Do you know where I can purchase the firmware and update tool or where I can download it from?

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                • teckat
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by manya
                  Teckat, thank you for the brilliant description, will do this. How can I check the firmware and update it if necessary to v16.03a. I understand I will need a Canon Service Support Tool to perform a firmware update, which I don't have. Do you know where I can purchase the firmware and update tool or where I can download it from?
                  go in service mode-select in order
                  COPIER>DISPLAY>VERSION

                  MN-CONT= will have your version

                  Use it to indicate the ROM version of various PCBs (copier, accessories).
                  - The format of display is as follows: if R-CON XX.YY>, XX: version; YY: R&D control number.
                  - If no PCB is installed, the display will be as follows: <-:->.

                  DC-CON= Use it to indicate the ROM version of the DC controller PCB.
                  R-CON= Use it to indicate the ROM version of the reader controller PCB.
                  PANEL= Use it to check the ROM version of the control panel controller PCB.
                  ECO =Use it to indicate the ROM version of the ECO PCB.
                  FEEDER =Use it to indicate the ROM version of the DADF controller PCB.
                  SORTER =Use it to indicate the ROM version of the finisher controller PCB.
                  FAX= Use it to indicate the ROM version of the FAX board.
                  NIB =Use it to indicate the Rom version of the network interface PCB
                  PS/PCL =Use it to check the Version of Printer board (PS/PCL function)
                  LIPS= Use it to check the version of the UFR board (LIPS).
                  SDL-STCH =Use it to check the ROM version of the saddle stitcher controller PCB.
                  OP-CONT= Use it to indicate the ROM version of the option controller PCB.
                  BOOT ROM=Use it to indicate the boot ROM version of the main controller PCB.
                  - if copier model/GDI-UFR model, xx.yyC
                  - if LIPS model, xx.yyL
                  - if PS/PCL model, xx.yy.N
                  MN-CONT= Use it to check the ROM version of the main controller PCB.
                  DIAG-DVC= Use it to indicate the ROM version of the self diagnosis device.
                  RUI= Use it to indicate the version of the remote UI.
                  PUNCH =Use it to indicate the version of the punch unit.
                  LANG-EN= u will various Languages stored in your printer
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                  • manya
                    Technician
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 11

                    #10
                    TecKat, thank you for your help will do as you have described.

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                    • manya
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Re: IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

                      Thanks for all the advice, I have tried everything suggested but still the same problem as in the previously attached pictures.
                      Found red shavings in the fixing unit, from the lower pressure roller and upper fixing roller.
                      I think these need replacing. I think the machine is getting too hot and requires an air conditioned
                      room as it is located in Sri Lanka and there is quite high humidity, as the plastic vents on the left
                      of the machine has turned slightly brown since shipping it their from the United Kingdom.
                      The machine worked for about a month, since being shipped over.

                      If there is anyone in Sri Lanka who can fix this machine please contact me.

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                      • vigour
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1038

                        #12
                        Re: IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

                        Do you have the exact voltage and cycle (Hz) as the UK.

                        Clean or replace your filters, when brown or magenta residue is on the vents.
                        Last edited by vigour; 01-05-2012, 06:43 AM.

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                        • manya
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Re: IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

                          The a.c. mains voltage in sri lanka is between 230V and 240V and has a frequency of 50Hz.
                          Nominally 230V, with some minor fluctuations, this is the same as the U.K.

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                          • charm5496
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                            • Apr 2008
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                            #14
                            Re: IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

                            yes your fuser needs rebuilding and yes this machine should be ran in a controlled environment. The heat and humidity will ruin the toner and starter while it is still in the developer units rendering the machine useless.

                            Your 747 error codes are a communication issue which could be a build up of corrosion, loose connector or possibly a bad board all together.

                            As for the digital lines you posted I would look at your replacing your RAM as teckat mentioned and replacing the Main Controller-Sub pcb FM2-5899-000
                            Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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                            • teckat
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                              • Jan 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: IR C6800CN Black stripes: E000747-2028 , E000747-0331, E000020-0190

                              Originally posted by manya
                              The a.c. mains voltage in sri lanka is between 230V and 240V and has a frequency of 50Hz.
                              Nominally 230V, with some minor fluctuations, this is the same as the U.K.


                              u posted on this issue last January/February of 2011 ---???
                              where have u or this printer been since then ?

                              where I posted some issues for u to look at

                              did u replace the memory-

                              020-0190=YELLOW ISSUE///check patch image read sensor--check ITB Sheet

                              If the process unit is left alone for a long time in a high humidity environment, the primary transfer ATVC control mechanism that goes on when the main power is turned on can cause electrical discharge between the primary transfer roller and the primary transfer static eliminator. The discharge can cause the resistance of the primary transfer roller to fluctuate. Malfunction of the primary transfer ATVC control mechanism can lead to an error associated with E020 or can adversely affect color reproduction.

                              check in service mode below

                              COPIER>DISPLAY>MISC
                              ENV-TR Display the environmental ranges
                              Display the environmental ranges for transfer controlling according to the environment (temprature and humidity) inside the printer.
                              Range of value--------------
                              1: Low humidity (to 5.8 g)
                              2: Normal humidity (5.9 to 17.3 g)
                              3: High humidity (from 17.4 g)
                              Factory default value: The value adjusted at the factory/The value after RAM cleared: 2


                              COPIER>DISPLAY>ANALOG
                              TEMP-----Use it to check the machine inside temperature (environment sensor; in deg C).
                              HUM------Use it to check the machine inside humidity (environment sensor; in %RH).
                              ABS-HUM--Use it to check moisture content (environment sensor; in g).


                              PRINTER
                              Operating environment
                              (temperature range) 15 to 30 deg C

                              Operating environment
                              (humidity range) 25% to 80%
                              If the site is in a high humidity environment, turn on the environment
                              switch (so that the drum heater will go on regardless of the state of the main power switch.

                              Operating environment

                              (atmospheric pressure) 810.6 to 1013.3 hpa (0.8 to 1.0 atm)



                              there are numerous adjustments in service mode- in level 1/2 for high humidity environment

                              check your manual
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