Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

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  • Boltaction
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    • Jul 2016
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    #31
    Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

    Hey guys, I may catch hell for not submitting a new thread, but this could be relevant.

    I have a new customer who purchased a c368 brand new, and since the beginning, have had issues scanning to folder. Their c364 was configured exactly the same way on the network, same port, same everything. The issue is, intermittently, the screen gets stuck at the sending screen. As soon as you touch "stop job" the machine freezes. Putting the machine into sub power and then waking it back up, it fails to complete the job due to power off. But the machine will work fine, and there is a chance trying the same scan job will work perfectly. But about every other scan job does this.

    Never had a problem printing or copying.

    The company who sold them the machine did have the latest G00-R9 firmware installed. I flashed the firmware, no change. But the changelog PDF for that firmware says the function version is updated to 4.1. This machine function version is 3.4.

    Ultimately, my question is: does the firmware update not actually update the function version as well?

    This is uncharted territory for us, our fleet is made up of mostly 4 series.

    Any input is greatly appreciated!

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    • jotunn
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 592

      #32
      Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

      You have to set version manually - by setting Software SW 25 to A0

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      • Boltaction
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        • Jul 2016
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        #33
        Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

        Originally posted by jotunn
        You have to set version manually - by setting Software SW 25 to A0
        I doubt this is the cause of my problem but I will give it a shot when I go back tomorrow.

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        • copier tech
          Field Supervisor

          5,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2014
          • 8100

          #34
          Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

          Originally posted by Boltaction
          Hey guys, I may catch hell for not submitting a new thread, but this could be relevant.

          I have a new customer who purchased a c368 brand new, and since the beginning, have had issues scanning to folder. Their c364 was configured exactly the same way on the network, same port, same everything. The issue is, intermittently, the screen gets stuck at the sending screen. As soon as you touch "stop job" the machine freezes. Putting the machine into sub power and then waking it back up, it fails to complete the job due to power off. But the machine will work fine, and there is a chance trying the same scan job will work perfectly. But about every other scan job does this.

          Never had a problem printing or copying.

          The company who sold them the machine did have the latest G00-R9 firmware installed. I flashed the firmware, no change. But the changelog PDF for that firmware says the function version is updated to 4.1. This machine function version is 3.4.

          Ultimately, my question is: does the firmware update not actually update the function version as well?

          This is uncharted territory for us, our fleet is made up of mostly 4 series.


          Any input is greatly appreciated!
          I'd suspect a HDD issue when failing can give this kind of symptom, try unplugging & booting up or try a replacement as a test any size will do.


          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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          • Boltaction
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            • Jul 2016
            • 92

            #35
            Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

            Originally posted by copier tech
            I'd suspect a HDD issue when failing can give this kind of symptom, try unplugging & booting up or try a replacement as a test any size will do.


            I suspected that as well, however the machine boots up just fine. An intermitten HDD issue is possible and will be one of the things I try.

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            • techlogic
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2019
              • 4

              #36
              Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

              Verified Solution!
              I recently was having issues loading firmware.. stuck at 2 fins on screen.. had already done many firmware updates in prior months to same machines. Then had 2 stubborn machines... turns out I had to LEAVE THE FRONT DOOR OPEN while loading the firmware. Loaded fine on both machines.. after many different USB sticks. low level formatting the usb's.. trying different unzip utilities... Remember leave the door open!

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              • emujo2
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Mar 2017
                • 1580

                #37
                Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                Hoping to clarify...Firmware fixes problems and bugs, but also adds functionality. The functionality is added when you upgrade the funciton version..So you have 3 things to worry about when adding new firmware

                1. Trying to fix a problem where screen freezes after selecting another feature-F/W update
                2. Trying to utlize SMB 3.0 - Firmware update and function version up as well
                3. F/W and function version upgrade caused print drivers to fail- Print driver version must match function version. E
                Last edited by emujo2; 07-23-2020, 07:53 PM.

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                • copyman
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                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4520

                  #38
                  Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                  Not sure if anyone mentioned it or even if your problem but try leaving front door open while downloading FW. Not sure if there is a bulletin about this and / or a rep from Kon/Min told me. I had a C368 that would not recognize any flash drive I tried. Several that I had used many times on other models with no problems. Left front door open and Bingo! It worked!

                  Something to keep in mind if any trouble loading F/W where it doesn't recognize the flash drive and boots right up to regular screen.

                  ADDED this after I posted. Ha-ha I see someone did post about the front door. Well I can confirm it works!

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                  • emujo2
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1580

                    #39
                    Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                    Leaving the front door open was assoscited with Sub CPU and SATA drive updates. I'm happy that it works for you, but the door should have nothing to do with reading the USB drive. E

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                    • Synthohol
                      Certified Konica Expert

                      Site Contributor
                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 5735

                      #40
                      Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                      Originally posted by emujo2
                      Leaving the front door open was assoscited with Sub CPU and SATA drive updates. I'm happy that it works for you, but the door should have nothing to do with reading the USB drive. E
                      FWIW, when i worked with 2 KMBS DSMs they insist on leaving the door open when running any firmware, partial or complete.
                      gotta be an undocumented reason i suppose.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • Bix
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1421

                        #41
                        Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                        I perhaps have a theory:
                        Opening the front door before turning on the switch blocks any component from starting, so the firmware may be successful. If the door remains closed, some component could compromise the correct firmware execution.

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                        • copier tech
                          Field Supervisor

                          5,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 8100

                          #42
                          Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                          Originally posted by copyman
                          Not sure if anyone mentioned it or even if your problem but try leaving front door open while downloading FW. Not sure if there is a bulletin about this and / or a rep from Kon/Min told me. I had a C368 that would not recognize any flash drive I tried. Several that I had used many times on other models with no problems. Left front door open and Bingo! It worked!

                          Something to keep in mind if any trouble loading F/W where it doesn't recognize the flash drive and boots right up to regular screen.

                          ADDED this after I posted. Ha-ha I see someone did post about the front door. Well I can confirm it works!
                          Most likely just a coincidence.
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                          • rtrj
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5

                            #43
                            Re: Bizhub C308/C368 firmware update problem [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]

                            We had the same issue here and tried all of the above solutions plus going to earlier firmware and working our way up, N/G. We switched to a totally different flash drive and we had success!

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