Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

[dagoof]

Hi all,

Looking for some assistance, I had a c8000 machine with Konica's ic-601 RIP, however, it was a source of frustration and we managed to get hold of a redundant ic-306. I reinstalled everything from the Fiery system software CD (new HDD in the RIP) but when trying to run prints directly from the RIP/CW5 it said there was a signed driver issue (can't remember the exact message).

However, everything loaded fine otherwise but when the job gets sent to RIP it will just drop back down from the processing tab. Going to 'properties', it says "Product is not enabled".
On checking CW5 Device centre, the graphic shows installed units that are not currently present (I'm guessing from the RIP's previous configuration).

At some point in the install it said to check the 'installable options' tab in the printer's driver - in this section, the graphic shows the correct units installed but the options window still shows incorrect units (unfortunately the add/remove buttons are greyed out). There's a '2 way communication' update button but this fails to connect - I should point out I tested that function on another (working) c8000 with ic-306 and it also failed on that, so I'm not sure that's the solution.

Can anyone suggest anything to update/clear the legacy? I've a number of Fiery system software CDs but I'm guessing they're universal?
Likewise, I'm guessing the legacy isn't in the dongles, as I've swapped finishing units on machines previously with no legacy problems.
I should note it prints the colour calibration chart from CW5, so it seems like a driver issue.

[Mick01]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Hi,
This is testing the memory a bit but I seem to recall there being an upgrade kit for the IC-306 to allow compatibility with the C8000.
It is an upgrade dongle.
IC-306 have had a number of updates. Below is just from memory but I believe it is correct.
V1.0 Win XP for C6/7000
V1.1 Win XP for C8000 (after upgrade kit applied)
V2.0 Win XP 64 bit (paid upgrade)
V3.0 Win 7 64 bit (paid upgrade)

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Thanks Mick, I'd tried re-installing with the v1 system disc and dongle from another c8000 but still had the same issue. I even tried the Fiery options disc and it said the install was enabled
I've also got a v1.5 system disc but had an issue with that too (think the 'user software' discs I had were incompatible).

[Mick01]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Hi,
Unfortunately that dongle will not work. They are designed to be single use only. Once the update is done using the dongle it is useless.
This was a stupid idea from EFI when this was implemented (a way for them to make more money).

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Can anyone think of any solutions? I was sent a fresh/sealed dongle but either it didn't work or I installed it with the wrong disc set (and now it's maybe done if it's 'single use')? Got a very expensive dead RIP here

[Synthohol]

that comes with the Graphics Arts Package and the dongle.

• Use the disk that comes with the IC-306 labeled: labeled Part Number: 45092013
  
• Follow the instructions provided in the package containing the dongle except use the version 1.0 feature update software disk.
  
• If the version 1.0 disk is not available with all of the installation and setup disks that come with the IC-306 it can be download from the Konica Minolta Download Selector. Look under the IC-306, Utilities tab. It will be listed as Fiery Options Util v1 5.iso
  
• Newer IC-306 hardware will use the disk that came with the controller.
  
  
  
  Question
  How to swap an IC-306 between bizhub PRESS C6000/C7000 and bizhub PRESS C8000 MFPs.
  
  
  Answer
  In some environments where only one IC-306 is available to be connected to a bizhub PRESS C6000/C7000 series and a bizhub PRESS C8000 MFP (such as in a demo room or training environment), it is possible to use one controller to swap between both engine types.
  
  It is required that the IC-306 has an installed bizhub PRESS C8000 Enabler Kit (UK-102, Item #A37YWY1 - USB Upgrade Dongle). The controller and engine will need to be OFF before connecting, and a period of at least 15 minutes is required for the controller to configure itself to the new engine. Do not turn the controller off during this period or a system code reinstallation may be required.

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Sounds like it might be a winner synthohol, I'll let you know!

[Synthohol]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

*fingers crossed*
the attachment has more info about dongle usage, didnt know if you had a copy.

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Not had much luck so far Synthohol

I went through the dongles I had with the Fiery Options v1.5 boot disc - most said they had "no uses left" but one still had 1 available use left.

However, it said the FACI was already enabled and not to re-enable. I would have tried to re-enable anyway but unfortunately the enable button is grayed-out/unselectable. The PDF you attached had menus etc accessible in the options disc but I don't appear to have them (they're likely only available when 'enable' is an option?).

[Synthohol]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

sorry to hear man, at least going forward you can clone the rip so you wont have to go through anything like this again.

[tulintron]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Not had much luck so far Synthohol

I went through the dongles I had with the Fiery Options v1.5 boot disc - most said they had "no uses left" but one still had 1 available use left.

However, it said the FACI was already enabled and not to re-enable. I would have tried to re-enable anyway but unfortunately the enable button is grayed-out/unselectable. The PDF you attached had menus etc accessible in the options disc but I don't appear to have them (they're likely only available when 'enable' is an option?).

Good afternoon friends.In Bizhub C7000 this exchange is only possible after disabling the HD's in switching DIPSW 02-0.


Try disabling it on the C8000 and try it out.

If you can not, get a DIPSW list of a C8000 that runs with IC306 and compares yours. Well sure to be a DIPSW key that does not have functions in the service manual.

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Just wondering if I could clone the HDD from my other ic306 with the Fiery Clone Tool disc (or some other bit-for-bit cloning program)?
I still have the original HDD but it's inaccessible even as a secondary/slave drive.

[Albonline]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Just wondering if I could clone the HDD from my other ic306 with the Fiery Clone Tool disc (or some other bit-for-bit cloning program)?
I still have the original HDD but it's inaccessible even as a secondary/slave drive.

the 306 was used on the 6/7000 and 8000 to get it to work with an 8000 you need to upgrade the rip with a one time use dongle , this burns to the cmos on the motherboard. there is simply put no other way to make it happen.

[dagoof]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

Thanks Alb, it should already be on the cmos then! I don't know what the issue is, I can't be the only person in the world to have a hdd fail.

I had a corrupt install on another ic306, reinstalled and had no problem!

[Albonline]

Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

try this , put your hdd into a pc and run fdisk, remove all partitions put it back into the rip and then try loading it, also just a fyi, something in my memory is telling me that there were bad copies of the 306 load dvds.