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  • paulrid
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    • Nov 2011
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    C203 line issues

    Hi all,

    i have a C203 with quality issues see attached. So far we have changed IU's, ITB and secondary transfer roller reset and stabilise but can't get rid of them. It seems to effect all colours but magenta is the worste I was going to change magenta PH but with a closer look it's all colours so I haven't and thought I'd asked here if anyone has seen this.

    many thanks Paul.
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  • copyman
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    • Sep 2005
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    #2
    Re: C203 line issues

    so you are saying you installed brand new OEM ITB & IU's? it still looks like one or more of those is the problem. Only 3 things would cause lines, IU's, Trans belt or fuser. You are right PH wouldn't cause that.

    have you stopped in middle of cycle to see if lines on trans belt, drums, etc

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    • paulrid
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      #3
      Re: C203 line issues

      Originally posted by copyman
      so you are saying you installed brand new OEM ITB & IU's? it still looks like one or more of those is the problem. Only 3 things would cause lines, IU's, Trans belt or fuser. You are right PH wouldn't cause that.

      have you stopped in middle of cycle to see if lines on trans belt, drums, etc
      Hi copyman thanks for the reply,

      no not new but good ones from a working machine and also fuser but forgot to say that and yes stopped and checked ITB and the lines were there.

      Paul.

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      • copyman
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        #4
        Re: C203 line issues

        That is weird. I still suspect the IU's or belt. Not sure it can be anything else.

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        • Gift
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          • Mar 2011
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          #5
          Re: C203 line issues

          Looks somewhat magenta-related to me - try and print some full page half tone pattern for each color separately, it will give you a better hint wich part(s) might be affected. Weird line artefacts across running direction might be HV related (bad or dirty and therefore fluctuating contact-resistance to HV, drum grounding...)

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          • paulrid
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            #6
            Re: C203 line issues

            Originally posted by Gift
            Looks somewhat magenta-related to me - try and print some full page half tone pattern for each color separately, it will give you a better hint wich part(s) might be affected. Weird line artefacts across running direction might be HV related (bad or dirty and therefore fluctuating contact-resistance to HV, drum grounding...)
            Thanks for the reply.
            I have printed half tones but can't work out what it is, magenta is the worst but if you look close (harder on the scanned copy) but you can see similar patterns in all CMYK ??

            Paul.

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            • blackcat4866
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              Re: C203 line issues

              I think that I'd still take a closer look at the laser slit glasses, and possibly clean the laser optics, at least as a starting point. I have some reservations about your good-used imaging units.

              Try an image like this to separate out the effect of the individual colors: =^..^=
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              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • driving lots of miles
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                #8
                Re: C203 line issues

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                I think that I'd still take a closer look at the laser slit glasses, and possibly clean the laser optics, at least as a starting point. I have some reservations about your good-used imaging units.

                Try an image like this to separate out the effect of the individual colors: =^..^=

                Black Cat I just wanted to thank you again for the PDF file, I downloaded it to a jump drive and I have used it several times and it has been a big help.

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                • paulrid
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                  #9
                  Re: C203 line issues

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  I think that I'd still take a closer look at the laser slit glasses, and possibly clean the laser optics, at least as a starting point. I have some reservations about your good-used imaging units.

                  Try an image like this to separate out the effect of the individual colors: =^..^=
                  Thanks for the reply blackcat,

                  i have printed those those off but don't have them to attach but I could see the pattern for all colours, when I swapped IU's the pattern were identical. We may need to swap out machine but it's up a narrow staircase and I'm old with a bad back 😂

                  Paul.

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                  • Gift
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                    #10
                    Re: C203 line issues

                    Running marks and general wear on the transfer belt might also show line-artefacts on half tones visible within all colors

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                    • floody
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                      • Mar 2017
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                      #11
                      Re: C203 line issues

                      have you tried single colour sky shots to see if the marks you are getting are different in each colour?

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                      • Synthohol
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                        #12
                        Re: C203 line issues

                        To me it looks like the transfer belt just isn't getting cleaned
                        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                        The medication helps though...

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                        • Phil B.
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                          #13
                          Re: C203 line issues

                          Originally posted by Synthohol
                          To me it looks like the transfer belt just isn't getting cleaned
                          agreed.

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                          • copyman
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                            Re: C203 line issues

                            Chances of all IU's being bad is really slim, agree the trans belt is likely culprit.

                            FYI, Dirt on lasers would cause "blank" lines not colored lines. Always think the opposite with laser technology. What would cause black/colored lines with analog will cause white/blank lines with laser. Few examples, Dirty coronas- analog blank, laser black. Dirty optics, analog black, laser white, etc etc.

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                            • Hansoon
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                              #15
                              Re: C203 line issues

                              Do we have here in these series the much feared "Clogged Waste Toner System Syndrome" starting to show up?

                              Hans
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